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Old Sep 8, 2013 | 04:10 PM
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Thanks big inch, like I said I will take advice from experience, down through the years I've figured out I can learn just as much from other people mistakes as I can from making my own as long as I'm willing to let myself..... lol, and I guess with age comes wisdom because lately I seem to be more willing to let myself than in the past.
 
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Old Sep 8, 2013 | 04:43 PM
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The 6L shears the oil, 40 wt becomes 30, 30 wt becomes 20, etc. So extra filtration to extend change intervals is not a great idea.

5k is easy to remember and keep track. Imo.
 
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Old Sep 8, 2013 | 04:50 PM
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Would changing the oil at 250 hrs be too long for a 6.0? I do short runs so I thought the hour meter might be a good way to go.
 
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Old Sep 8, 2013 | 04:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Misky6.0
The 6L shears the oil, 40 wt becomes 30, 30 wt becomes 20, etc. So extra filtration to extend change intervals is not a great idea.

5k is easy to remember and keep track. Imo.
Yeah, I think 5K is good for how this motor beats up the oil. But from what I have read, the 30 weight (10W 30, etc.) doesn't suffer from shear much at all versus the 40. I think that's why there are a number of HEUI guys going with a 10W 30 and have numbers to show it's doing fine. I'm not quite in that camp yet myself...
 
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Old Sep 8, 2013 | 05:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Misky6.0
The 6L shears the oil, 40 wt becomes 30, 30 wt becomes 20, etc. So extra filtration to extend change intervals is not a great idea.

5k is easy to remember and keep track. Imo.
A dino XW40 weight shears down to a heavy XW30 weight. An XW30 weight remains an XW30 weight.

Synthetic XW40 remains an XW40.

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Old Sep 8, 2013 | 05:09 PM
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5K seems to be the general consensus on the oil change so I will be going with that. Thanks to all for the input.
 
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Old Sep 8, 2013 | 05:17 PM
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Originally Posted by olemoffat
Would changing the oil at 250 hrs be too long for a 6.0? I do short runs so I thought the hour meter might be a good way to go.
Ford states 5,000 miles or 6 months whichever comes first. Do what makes you comfy. A lot of mfg's have the 6 month timeline also due to condensation and corrosive build ups in the oil.
 
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Old Sep 8, 2013 | 06:53 PM
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Originally Posted by olemoffat
Would changing the oil at 250 hrs be too long for a 6.0? I do short runs so I thought the hour meter might be a good way to go.
If you only average 20 mph, that would be about right, but if you average 40 mph, that would be 10,000 miles. The other thing to keep in mind is that short trips are harder on your engine and oil.
 
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Old Sep 8, 2013 | 07:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Misky6.0
The 6L shears the oil, 40 wt becomes 30, 30 wt becomes 20, etc. So extra filtration to extend change intervals is not a great idea.

5k is easy to remember and keep track. Imo.
Yes Sir your so Right

You can Only Push Oil so Far

Those spool valve in the inject are one of the First things to give a guy problems with extended oil change

With a Bypass oil filter I think it would still be wise to not Go Over 7500miles
 
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Old Sep 8, 2013 | 07:13 PM
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Originally Posted by big inch
If you only average 20 mph, that would be about right, but if you average 40 mph, that would be 10,000 miles. The other thing to keep in mind is that short trips are harder on your engine and oil.
That would be the reason for the 6 month time line. If you haven't hit 5,000 miles in 6 months you probably have many trips that didn't get the engine/oil up to temps to boil off condensation.
 
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Old Sep 8, 2013 | 07:36 PM
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I generally have a few months a year when I rarely get to operating temp, I UOA every oil change, and it never shows up in the oil analysis.

So I have to call bunk on the whole change at 6 months mantra, although I drive enough the rest of the year that I never get to 6 months with my 6.0. Other diesel engines I have sit for months without even running and the lube tests fine.

The current spec (CJ-4) is very good at dispersing soot and lubricating in general, and as many of you know I run to 7,500 mi. intervals with 10w-30. My suggestion is to just run them and don't over-think oil or oil change intervals. My current 6.0 is over 186,000 mi., all oil changes have been at 7,500 mi., injectors haven't been touched, and fuel filters go to 15,000 mi., just as printed in the owners manual.

Someone posted above that 5w-40 syn doesn't shear out of 40 wt. My personal experience with Rotella (3 consectitive runs a long time ago) is that it sheared to a lower viscosity than what my 10w-30 does! I have UOA data on this truck form new to current.
 
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Old Sep 8, 2013 | 07:42 PM
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That would be the reason for the 6 month time line. If you haven't hit 5,000 miles in 6 months you probably have many trips that didn't get the engine/oil up to temps to boil off condensation.



In Addition to Fuel Delution of the Oil
 
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Old Sep 8, 2013 | 07:45 PM
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Someone posted above that 5w-40 syn doesn't shear out of 40 wt. My personal experience with Rotella (3 consectitive runs a long time ago) is that it sheared to a lower viscosity than what my 10w-30 does! I have UOA data on this truck form new to current.

I thought they said 40w sheared to a 30w
 
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Old Sep 8, 2013 | 10:11 PM
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Originally Posted by roadrunner01
I generally have a few months a year when I rarely get to operating temp, I UOA every oil change, and it never shows up in the oil analysis.

So I have to call bunk on the whole change at 6 months mantra, although I drive enough the rest of the year that I never get to 6 months with my 6.0. Other diesel engines I have sit for months without even running and the lube tests fine.

The current spec (CJ-4) is very good at dispersing soot and lubricating in general, and as many of you know I run to 7,500 mi. intervals with 10w-30. My suggestion is to just run them and don't over-think oil or oil change intervals. My current 6.0 is over 186,000 mi., all oil changes have been at 7,500 mi., injectors haven't been touched, and fuel filters go to 15,000 mi., just as printed in the owners manual.

Someone posted above that 5w-40 syn doesn't shear out of 40 wt. My personal experience with Rotella (3 consectitive runs a long time ago) is that it sheared to a lower viscosity than what my 10w-30 does! I have UOA data on this truck form new to current.
For about 15 years, I did the 3,000 mile oil changes with gassers. Learned it from my pops, and he passed that info on to me. My brother still follows it. 95% of the people I meet who are sticklers for maintenance tell me to follow it and don't deviate. I listened to them for years. 3,000 miles, I changed my oil and didn't skip it more than 500 miles. EVER. Then I began to research and well... the rest is history. I have a Mitsubishi with 156,000 miles, I have used Mobil 1/Royal Purple since 15,000 miles. I changed 10,000 mile intervals. At 100,000 miles, I have used Amsoil. So for the past 56,000 miles has been on Amsoil at 25k intervals or 12 months. I check my oil every 2,000 miles or so and I probably add oil at 4,000 mile interval. Maybe 1/4 quart. As I said...I am new to Diesels. Everything that everyone here says makes sense, and I will follow it for now...

Well, some of it. My truck has 175,450 miles on it and I'm still using 15w40 Dino oil. The previous owner said he ran 15w40 and changed between 5,000 to 7,500 miles. Everyone here recommends 5w40 Full Synthetic. So far, cross my fingers, I'll be good.
 
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Old Sep 8, 2013 | 11:06 PM
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Originally Posted by roadrunner01
Someone posted above that 5w-40 syn doesn't shear out of 40 wt. My personal experience with Rotella (3 consectitive runs a long time ago) is that it sheared to a lower viscosity than what my 10w-30 does! I have UOA data on this truck form new to current.
The current Rotella T6 5W40 is nowhere near the same as the old formula.

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