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Old Sep 5, 2013 | 08:49 PM
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LPOP will be suspect if the vehicle has a lot if miles on it, based on the symptoms you are describing. It is behind the crankshaft damper. Easy to change out, and a Melling M208 is only ~$100.
 
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Old Sep 5, 2013 | 08:50 PM
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IPR is also suspect with those symptoms.
 
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Old Sep 5, 2013 | 08:51 PM
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Fuel pump is working. When cranking the oil pressure gauge does not move.
 
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I was thinking i was right but the place for checking the lpop psi is where the sensor screws in the top of the hpop reservoir. no oil in reservoir means no oil psi which agrees with your gauge on a long crank.
 
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Old Sep 5, 2013 | 08:57 PM
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If you want to test low pressure oil pressure, there is a test port on the oil cooler right above the oil filter. It's 1/8 npt.

Edit: Or what he said, on top of the HPOP reservoir. I agree that it sounds a lot like the lpop is bad.
 
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Old Sep 5, 2013 | 09:00 PM
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THanks for all your help guys. I will tackle this again in the morning and let you know how it turns out. Odds are I will be back with more questions first. HAHA
 
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If you fill the reservoir by hand, it should take a LONG time to empty itself back to the oil pan. If it drains itself out before several days pass, you have other issues.
 
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Old Sep 5, 2013 | 09:08 PM
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https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...old-start.html

Shakeandbake put a couple really good links in this thread about the high psi oil system and how it works on 8/27.
 
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Old Sep 5, 2013 | 09:46 PM
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Did you check to see if the Oil its self is low. these trucks will shut down when the oil level is too low..
 
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Old Sep 6, 2013 | 04:03 PM
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Thanks for all your help guys! It was the IPR, not the cheapest thing I ever replaced but it runs and that is a start. I does take alot of cranking on initial start up. but that isn't something I am willing to get into til tomorrow. Lpop tired maybe? What would you suspect if the hpop res. dropped about 1/3 of a liter over a 24hour period of sitting?
 
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Old Sep 6, 2013 | 05:58 PM
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Anti-drainback valve...or an unlikely problem with front cover.
 
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Old Sep 6, 2013 | 09:27 PM
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As far as a lot of cranking to start, see how it does after 100 or so miles. It takes a while to purge all that air out after its been run empty in the oil system. It may clear up and start normally after it purges the air.
 
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