Roller rockers :)
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Fleet Mechanic
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Roller rockers :)
445 Build! (390fe)
Anyone have a opinion on these? I was going to get some Harland sharp roller rockers but just found these. Choice of aluminum or stainless.
PRW Online Store - Ford
Comp cams roller rockers are almost the same price as a set of aluminum heads.lol
EDIT: found these as well but couldn't find the prices...
http://tdmach.com/rockers.html
AND WILL STOCK VALVE COVERS FIT WITH ROLLER ROCKERS?
Anyone have a opinion on these? I was going to get some Harland sharp roller rockers but just found these. Choice of aluminum or stainless.
PRW Online Store - Ford
Comp cams roller rockers are almost the same price as a set of aluminum heads.lol
EDIT: found these as well but couldn't find the prices...
http://tdmach.com/rockers.html
AND WILL STOCK VALVE COVERS FIT WITH ROLLER ROCKERS?
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on an FE forum, there are several complaints about PRW, try looking at these
Precision Oil Pumps
the company is a vendor on that forum, but used and sold by other vendors on that forum
Precision Oil Pumps
the company is a vendor on that forum, but used and sold by other vendors on that forum
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As far as PRW rockers are concerned, or any of those "bargain priced" FE rocker arm systems...
They are a bargain when you first buy them...
But the bargain is quickly lost when you start buying replacement rockers that have failed..... and you have to replace other expensive parts that got thrashed when the cheap parts let loose....
Harland Sharp, Precision Oil Pumps and Comp Cams make "tried and true" FE rocker arm systems..... they're not cheap but you'll only have to buy them once and you won't have to worry about them.
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Aluminum tends to fatigue and fail faster than steel. If you plan on putting some miles on suggest you stick with steel. Agree you get what you pay for with rockers. On a budget stick with stock rockers and moderate cam/springs. It is a reliable setup. Or if you want more, go with the better rockers. Comp steel or high end aluminum.
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I don't consider PRWs bargain lifters, they're $600.
And after seeing what you get for the money its well worth it.
I bought a set for my new build.
They're steel.
Yes they're made oversees. But after checking them out up close and being recommended by a couple old racers close to me, I got them. They are nice pieces.
If you're buying them for a truck I would get steel.
Aluminum is great, but for long runs where constant daily use gets to beating on the pieces day after day, go steel.
I'm also on those other forums also where PRWs get bashed but I don't hear anyone saying "I had a set and they suck". All I here is "they're Chinese so they must suck".
If I'm full of crap and they suck I'll let you know.
BTW
Where's that crank made you're putting in the bottom end?
And after seeing what you get for the money its well worth it.
I bought a set for my new build.
They're steel.
Yes they're made oversees. But after checking them out up close and being recommended by a couple old racers close to me, I got them. They are nice pieces.
If you're buying them for a truck I would get steel.
Aluminum is great, but for long runs where constant daily use gets to beating on the pieces day after day, go steel.
I'm also on those other forums also where PRWs get bashed but I don't hear anyone saying "I had a set and they suck". All I here is "they're Chinese so they must suck".
If I'm full of crap and they suck I'll let you know.
BTW
Where's that crank made you're putting in the bottom end?
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I don't consider PRWs bargain lifters, they're $600.
And after seeing what you get for the money its well worth it.
I bought a set for my new build.
They're steel.
Yes they're made oversees. But after checking them out up close and being recommended by a couple old racers close to me, I got them. They are nice pieces.
If you're buying them for a truck I would get steel.
Aluminum is great, but for long runs where constant daily use gets to beating on the pieces day after day, go steel.
I'm also on those other forums also where PRWs get bashed but I don't hear anyone saying "I had a set and they suck". All I here is "they're Chinese so they must suck".
If I'm full of crap and they suck I'll let you know.
BTW
Where's that crank made you're putting in the bottom end?
And after seeing what you get for the money its well worth it.
I bought a set for my new build.
They're steel.
Yes they're made oversees. But after checking them out up close and being recommended by a couple old racers close to me, I got them. They are nice pieces.
If you're buying them for a truck I would get steel.
Aluminum is great, but for long runs where constant daily use gets to beating on the pieces day after day, go steel.
I'm also on those other forums also where PRWs get bashed but I don't hear anyone saying "I had a set and they suck". All I here is "they're Chinese so they must suck".
If I'm full of crap and they suck I'll let you know.
BTW
Where's that crank made you're putting in the bottom end?
Its a scat 9000 series crank.
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That's pretty much my point.
That's a chinese casting , machined here.
But great quality control at Scat. It's a superior piece.
Another point brought up on another forum is that American companies are so regulated now that the castings are actually superior in the orient.
Not sure about that but it figures.
These days we just have to be smart about what we get.
For instance you KNOW that those $200 dollar rockers on ebay are a POS.
I hear that PRW has the same set up as Scat. They get their rough stuff from over there and finish it here.
Believe me I'd rather buy everything I own, made in America, but todays world says nope.
Now I have to go out and buy a new jack 'cause my POS chinese one just took a crap in my driveway while I changing out my front end.
Good luck with your engine.
That's a chinese casting , machined here.
But great quality control at Scat. It's a superior piece.
Another point brought up on another forum is that American companies are so regulated now that the castings are actually superior in the orient.
Not sure about that but it figures.
These days we just have to be smart about what we get.
For instance you KNOW that those $200 dollar rockers on ebay are a POS.
I hear that PRW has the same set up as Scat. They get their rough stuff from over there and finish it here.
Believe me I'd rather buy everything I own, made in America, but todays world says nope.
Now I have to go out and buy a new jack 'cause my POS chinese one just took a crap in my driveway while I changing out my front end.
Good luck with your engine.
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That's pretty much my point.
That's a chinese casting , machined here.
But great quality control at Scat. It's a superior piece.
Another point brought up on another forum is that American companies are so regulated now that the castings are actually superior in the orient.
Not sure about that but it figures.
These days we just have to be smart about what we get.
For instance you KNOW that those $200 dollar rockers on ebay are a POS.
I hear that PRW has the same set up as Scat. They get their rough stuff from over there and finish it here.
Believe me I'd rather buy everything I own, made in America, but todays world says nope.
Now I have to go out and buy a new jack 'cause my POS chinese one just took a crap in my driveway while I changing out my front end.
Good luck with your engine.
That's a chinese casting , machined here.
But great quality control at Scat. It's a superior piece.
Another point brought up on another forum is that American companies are so regulated now that the castings are actually superior in the orient.
Not sure about that but it figures.
These days we just have to be smart about what we get.
For instance you KNOW that those $200 dollar rockers on ebay are a POS.
I hear that PRW has the same set up as Scat. They get their rough stuff from over there and finish it here.
Believe me I'd rather buy everything I own, made in America, but todays world says nope.
Now I have to go out and buy a new jack 'cause my POS chinese one just took a crap in my driveway while I changing out my front end.
Good luck with your engine.
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It isn't that they are so regulated, (there is that as well) it is the fact that you can get something cast and shipped for less than it can be poured here. The only foundries running in this country these days are the ones doing specialty pieces.
There is another one that is close by and they only deal with vacuum casting.
Like the one I worked at we made massive drill bits for the oil industry.
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I can emapthize with you on this one. I had an hecho en China Craftsman jack that served me well for plenty of years and was a good jack. Then one day it started leaking and wouldn't hold pressure. When I called, the cylinder wasn't servicable and the replacement would cost more than buying a new jack. I didn't want another disposable Chinese one and I didn't want to shell out big bucks for good modern one so I scoured CraigsList and found an older, blue Lincoln for $15. The guy was selling it because the pump on the back was bad, but the jack itself was in great shape. I had the cylinder rebuild just to bring it back to fresh condition and replaced the pumping piece on the back, both cost me about $150, and I ended up with a good American made jack that will last me a long time.
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Here's a couple of pics of mine.
Notice they give you adjustables so you can figure out your push rod length.
I worked in a foundry for a spell in the late 90's.
It isn't that they are so regulated, (there is that as well) it is the fact that you can get something cast and shipped for less than it can be poured here. The only foundries running in this country these days are the ones doing specialty pieces.
There is another one that is close by and they only deal with vacuum casting.
Like the one I worked at we made massive drill bits for the oil industry.
It isn't that they are so regulated, (there is that as well) it is the fact that you can get something cast and shipped for less than it can be poured here. The only foundries running in this country these days are the ones doing specialty pieces.
There is another one that is close by and they only deal with vacuum casting.
Like the one I worked at we made massive drill bits for the oil industry.
I think there is some truth to the story that foreign foundries are able to use different metals or combinations that are giving us a run for our money.
I really only know what I've read and that ain't much.
I'll do a little research tonight when I'm blasted from the sun and done.
I can emapthize with you on this one. I had an hecho en China Craftsman jack that served me well for plenty of years and was a good jack. Then one day it started leaking and wouldn't hold pressure. When I called, the cylinder wasn't servicable and the replacement would cost more than buying a new jack. I didn't want another disposable Chinese one and I didn't want to shell out big bucks for good modern one so I scoured CraigsList and found an older, blue Lincoln for $15. The guy was selling it because the pump on the back was bad, but the jack itself was in great shape. I had the cylinder rebuild just to bring it back to fresh condition and replaced the pumping piece on the back, both cost me about $150, and I ended up with a good American made jack that will last me a long time.
Which is what it's worth.
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Fleet Mechanic
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on an FE forum, there are several complaints about PRW, try looking at these
Precision Oil Pumps
the company is a vendor on that forum, but used and sold by other vendors on that forum
Precision Oil Pumps
the company is a vendor on that forum, but used and sold by other vendors on that forum
And I agree with montana to a point cuz I do like all my stuff made here in the USA but as a college student right now every penny counts
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How do ya know they are made in china? Their web page makes it seem like they are made here.
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"Several years ago an alliance was formed to find a cost-efficient method to produce high-quality, technically-advanced, yet affordably-priced performance engine parts. A small group of professionals, with over a hundred years of cumulative experience in the application of performance parts, collaborated to expand this concept. (read made in China)
PRW branded products are in stock and ready for delivery from various warehouse distributors, engine builders, and jobbers across the United States."
They may be designed in the USA, but they are manufactured overseas...trust me, if they were made in the USA it would be plastered ALL over their website.
