Range sensor or neutral safety problem? update
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I couldn't honestly tell you Bill. It somehow must be as that is how it works. As you know I'm no wiring expert. It came as a harness, one hot, one ground, one to oil pressure sender, and the hookups on the pump.
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Mine is like yours Darin. I don't know how Travis's and Bill's fill up?? The mule's pump will run and not fill the filters no matter how long I let it run. I don't know if you guys noticed in the OT thread but the other day my pump quit and so I had to wire it to switch key on power. The fuse was good so it has to be the inertia switch or relay that failed. When I first fired up the mare I also had to prime the filters.
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When I built my e-fuel and got it all hooked up, I don't think I primed the filters then. I just touched a wire to the battery to run the pump until I got pressure up to the regulator. I did Todd's that same way.
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That's easy to figure out Bill, you just have good luck while the rest of us have to crawl under and get diesel all over us. Then when we get into the truck the wife bitches that we smell like diesel!! I just say, what's wrong with a little 'man' perfume?? LOL
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I had my mom with me on the way home. I got back in and said I guess you get to smell the diesel additive the rest of the way home. She said that's fine, it doesn't smell bad at all. I was kind of surprised. After it died I was thinking of what it could be, all kinds of things running through my head. She says, "are you out of fuel?" After that, I slapped myself, threw out a few cuss words, and moved on to getting it going.
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I had my mom with me on the way home. I got back in and said I guess you get to smell the diesel additive the rest of the way home. She said that's fine, it doesn't smell bad at all. I was kind of surprised. After it died I was thinking of what it could be, all kinds of things running through my head. She says, "are you out of fuel?" After that, I slapped myself, threw out a few cuss words, and moved on to getting it going.
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I had my mom with me on the way home. I got back in and said I guess you get to smell the diesel additive the rest of the way home. She said that's fine, it doesn't smell bad at all. I was kind of surprised. After it died I was thinking of what it could be, all kinds of things running through my head. She says, "are you out of fuel?" After that, I slapped myself, threw out a few cuss words, and moved on to getting it going.
That would be great, we can give her a big head about how good of a job she did raising you Darin, LOL
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That's all I do is run a jumper to power the pump. No filling filters or anything. It is possible to cavitate the pump and cause it to not pump fuel, but it never happens to mine.
I have run mine out of fuel one time too. Ran my jumper wire, flipped to the full tank, 5 minutes later was on the road. Also had a pump relay quit, so I had no pump. Truck still drove with no fuel pump and zero psi fuel pressure. Drove it 10-15 miles with no pump.
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Really?? When mine quit two weeks ago, I was surprised how long it ran because I wanted to get to a good spot to pull over. I was thinking all the time it was going to quit any second. It must be the pump relay of mine that quit, I hit the inertia switch and the button popped out like it should so I think its OK.
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Mine didn't run long. I started loosing power dramatically, then it just died and I coasted to a stop.
Mom and Dad are kind of looking for another vehicle Bill. They are thinking another minivan so that they can haul more than 4 people comfortably. Maybe I need to tell her to get a 7.3 excursion and she can join!
Mom and Dad are kind of looking for another vehicle Bill. They are thinking another minivan so that they can haul more than 4 people comfortably. Maybe I need to tell her to get a 7.3 excursion and she can join!
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Really?? When mine quit two weeks ago, I was surprised how long it ran because I wanted to get to a good spot to pull over. I was thinking all the time it was going to quit any second. It must be the pump relay of mine that quit, I hit the inertia switch and the button popped out like it should so I think its OK.
This is the best idea I've heard all day!
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Excursion MOM!! All right.
I started losing power and my fuel gauge was about 20psi and dropping. I found a spot and shut it off so I really didn't look to see if it dropped to zero. Good to know about the relay, I didn't think of that.
Yeah, I had to run mine without a pump at all b/c I was on the road with nothing to help hot wire the pump. Replaced the relay when I got home and bam, we got fuel pressure! FYI, one of the relays in your under hood fuse box might work to replace the fuel pump relay. I robbed one off my F-150 when that happened.
This is the best idea I've heard all day!
This is the best idea I've heard all day!
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Well, an update. I got in the truck to start it for the first time since I parked it, and it did the same thing, nothing when I turned the key. I messed with the shifter and it went off right away. I got it in the shop and checked the bolts. They are tight.
The bracket that the bolts hold is on a shaft or something as you look up the steering column. The round part of that shaft behind the bracket seems loose, it wobbles around with the shifter when I move it. Is that the lower bearing area? I've been looking on the bronco manual online and I can't tell for sure. I have NO play in the wheel up top, but quite a bit on the shifter. I can see that round part I'm talking about.
This the area I'm talking about, the bolts are the ones pictured. Not real good picture, not much room
Also, where is the neutral safety at?
The bracket that the bolts hold is on a shaft or something as you look up the steering column. The round part of that shaft behind the bracket seems loose, it wobbles around with the shifter when I move it. Is that the lower bearing area? I've been looking on the bronco manual online and I can't tell for sure. I have NO play in the wheel up top, but quite a bit on the shifter. I can see that round part I'm talking about.
This the area I'm talking about, the bolts are the ones pictured. Not real good picture, not much room
Also, where is the neutral safety at?