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Old 08-19-2013, 09:41 PM
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Sure sounds like a heavy knock. The kind that would come from a loose rod. I hate to say this but it looks like you had better dive under the truck & pull the pan off and see if you can locate the offending rod.
I do feel for you. I had to pull mine down four or five times 'till it was right.
 
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Old 08-21-2013, 06:03 AM
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I pulled the oil pan, since it seems to be where the noise was coming from. I pulled all the caps and began to mic them, to see if any of them are worn. I found one cap that measured way out! The bearing still slides in, but there is a space between the bearing and the cap! I suspect that this is my problem. All other bearings look great. I did have one question. I have no side to side, or up and down movement on my bearings, but I can wiggle them slightly from front to back. Is this normal? I know I need to replace the worn out rod, but I want to make sure I don't need to re-pull the engine and change all the rods. It is pretty obvious where my noise was coming from, but I want to be sure.
 
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Is this a main or rod bearing that has the gap? Definitely not good!

Front to rear movement (clearance between rods on a journal) is OK, I think the specs are something like .015". It's very hard to distinguish the rod sliding on the journal from rocking, which is bad, with the piston/rod installed.
 
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Old 08-21-2013, 09:53 AM
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AAAAANNNNNDDDD!!! I'm a dumba$$!!! I put a new rods in this morning, and turned the engine by hand to make sure everything was clear. I put the oil pickup tube on, and cut my finger...it was only then that I realized the noise I had been hearing was the crank hitting the tube...I'm a failure as a mechanic!! At least I have solved the mystery! When I put the crank in the first time, I spun it to be sure everything was clear, and assumed the oil tube would be fine. I never checked it after the tube was on. There is a groove worn in the oil tube, and it almost punched through! I have welded the tube, and bent it about 1/2 inch down, and the crank spins fine! This is what happens when you cut corners, and dont check everything twice!
 
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Old 08-21-2013, 09:59 AM
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LOL, so maybe you found a bad rod just before THAT became a problem?!

Make sure you have the correct tube and oil pan combination. Do you have a truck pan? Using a truck pan with a car pickup, the screen bottoms on the pan and bends the tube up as you tighten the pan bolts. (Maybe it's vice versa, car pan and truck tube, I forget).
 
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Old 08-21-2013, 10:10 AM
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It looks like I kept myself from just having to do this again in a few months...now at least I know what it was, and I have new rods...the wife is going to kill me if she finds out I spend all that money for nothing...Im just going to tell her it was the flux capacitor...
 
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Bad rack and pinion molecules, honey. I sure did save us some time and money! If those had been left to go bad, the muffler bearing could have spun. That would have doomed all of mankind!
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Old 08-21-2013, 11:40 AM
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I had that sinking feeling on my son's 302....the dipstick was twanged so that the end was being hit by the crankshaft cheek every time it came around. It made a terrible noise that I was sure was a rod bearing. Fortunately for us, the red-neck stethoscope worked & I pulled the dipstick to cure that rod knock.

On the bright side, at least you know what you have now with the new rods.

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You guys are too funny! Unfortunately she knows when I am full of it...and I am sure she would see through it. I just keep telling her to hold all her complaints until it is done and we are cruising on a Friday night...I think she will change her tune!
 
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