I am looking around trying to find a good system for my new 79 f150. I have a few friends that have rockford fosgate subs n amps and they are pretty good. I want to do something different though and have been looking @ power acoustik's fubr series sub w/ 900 watts rms and 1800 ma10" or 12" depending on room for speaker box). Anyways I have not heard a lot about them. I have heard that they are good for their price. Is this true? I do not want to spend a whole lot of money and have found them for under 100 which is where i wanna be at. Is power acoustik a good quality sub? Do they hit very hard? I haven't done much thinking about an amp yet cuz i want to figure out my subs first then match them to a good amp. Any help or suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks

 

How much are you looking to spend on the amp and subs? PA FUBR's are alright. Nothing too special. The ****'s, on the other hand, are loud uhhhh, ****'s. 12" **** can be had for around $150. I'd go that route, if you want to stick to PA. If you want some good sound quality, good spl, and a very reasonable price, look into these:

Alpine Type R
ED K series
Adire Shiva

All are $125 or less.

 

I am looking for higher wattage system. I'd like to have around 1000 watts per sub available depending on what amp i choose ect. So do power acoustik subs have nice deep loud bass? or just average?

 

****'s have crazy loud bass. They will put your friends RF's to shame if you feed them 1000 per. Both PA's are geared more toward spl, but they don't sound that bad. If you go ported, tune around 30 hz (this will give a nice combo of sq and spl) and you'll make your friends poop their pants.

BTW, is the 1000 watts RMS, or max power. There's a big difference. If it's max power, go with the FUBR's. RMS, try to get the ****'s.

 

1000 rms would be nice but i will take a little less if i find a great deal on subs and/or amp. i definately want the subs to be able to hit 1000 watts so have to have over 1000 watts max which the PA's im looking at have over easily. also i have only made sealed boxes before. are ported boxes that much harder? they dont sound like it anyways.

 

ok lets say i go with the 10" **** sub from PA (got to measure room in pickup first). what would be a good amp to go with to power these? id like to stay with pa but if there is a better amp for them thats fine. i think they are around 140. i want to stay with the 10" and not the 12" cuz i do not think i will have the room. if u find a cheap site tell me it will be well appreciated. i have been looking @ thezeb and etronics for prices. etronics is cheapest so far

 

They like at least 1200 watts rms. And you need that 1200 watts at 2 ohms (they're dual 1 ohm, so you have to wire them to a 2 ohm load since finding a .5 ohm stable amp is both hard and expensive). $140 will not buy you that nice of an amp if you're looking for that much power. You'll need to spend about twice that. The cheapest decent amp that would work nice, would be the JBL 1200.1. It costs ~$275.

OR, you could go to Audioblowouts which sells new (but discontinued) and refurbished amps. I know of a few people on CAF that have bought from them and are very pleased. The amps they are currently selling that I would reccomend:

Lanzar Vibe 1200D. At 2 ohms, it puts out just over 800 watts rms. If you use that ported box that Etronics reccomends, 1.75 cuft, tuned to 40 hz, that would get disgustingly loud with only 800ish watts. I would like to see a tune around 30 hz, but if it's spl you're after, that box will make you grin like this .

Anyways, if you can save up to get the JBL amp (about 1400 watts rms at 2 ohms), I would do that. The Lanzar Vibe 1200D is a pretty good deal for the money ($189), though.

 

im not looking for an amp for 140. the subs are around 140. for amp id like to be around 200-250 maybe. thanks for the suggestions ill check that out. as soon as my pickup gets back from the shop ill measure the room behind the seat. hopefully i have enough space without moving the seat too far forward. even tho it doesnt bother me in my current pickup my parents just dont appreciate a few inches less of leg room lol.

 

I have 2 12" dual voice coil Farengate by Power Acoustic subs in my Bronco II - perfect subs for his price - need low volume of box (appr. 28 - 30 liters), give high sound pressure (the highest for my car - 144,5 dB not in the SPL boxes), it is possible to make enough musical bass and powerful too (it depend on tuning of crossovers). Low volumes boxes help to save the place in the trunk (my truck is not only for music), I put on both the subs approx. 1.1 kW (Calcell 350.2 bridge both the subs by 0.5 Ohm for channel) - it stays alive. Some other subs have same possibilities, but not for that price (here it $110 for each sub).

 

hey luvdeftonz i have found a 1/2 stable power amp like you were talking about. its a boss and its their powerdrives series. im looking @ the 1000X2 amp. the i have found a place where they are about $220. is this a better amp than what you suggested? or is there a better amp for the 12 **** pa for under or close to 250? http://bossaudio.com/products/amplifier_powerdrive.htm is some info on them such as specs etc.

 

oo just found it for 199 @ http://www.millionbuy.com/caudio-amp-bos.html

 

Do not buy the Boss, please. You WILL be disappointed. Get your power at 2 ohms. The amp will run cooler and last longer. That Boss amp will not last long at .5 ohm, trust me. The power ratings of the Boss are exaggerated, also. Just not a good company to do business with. If you want to go on the cheap, and still get a decent amp, go with Lanzar or JBL.

$.02

 

alright. u answered my next question already lol how long would it last running @ 1/2 ohm. ill look closer at lanzar and jbl and post anything i find

 

ok i have another question. i have found that there are 3 main types of amps. multi channel, 2 channel, and mono. i was planning on about a 1600-2400 watt 2 channel amp. are these not meant to power 2 subs? it sounds as tho you need one mono amp for each speaker the way they are listed. have any specific reccomendations for the 2 10" **** subs. id like to spend under or close to 250 on the amp again.

 

2 channel amp, as the name suggests, powers 2 channels (left and right). It can be bridged to a 4 ohm mono load, to power 1 or more subs. Multichannel amp usually refers to a 3 or more channel amp (I've seen car audio amps up to 8 channels!). These are usually a 2 channel amp plus a mono amp section to power a sub. Nice all in one solution. A mono amp has just one channel, and is meant to power a sub.

You don't want a 2 channel amp that gives 1600-2400 wrms. It will be waaaaay too power hungry. They just require too much current. Even Class D mono amps, that put out that type of power, are current hungry. If you got one of these, expect to do some major electrical upgrades to you trucks electrical system. Magic 3, alternator, battery, 1/0 guage power/ground wiring...just not worth it unless you're a competitor.

I think you're going about this sub upgrade wrong. You're looking at power ratings on the sub(s) and amp(s), and that's NOT a good indicator. It would probably be best if you laid out a budget for everything, and said "What's the best sub setup I can do with this budget...". If you want to get loud only, look at Kicker or Audiobahn. If you want to sound good, look at Adire, ED, RE, JL, Eclipse, etc. Given the proper box, I can make any of these subs crazy loud. They won't need 1600-2400 watts to do it either. In fact, a ED 12k, ported, with 500 watts will sound better than your friends RF's, and if they only have a single RF, the k will get louder. AND...the k takes a smaller box than the PA you're looking at, the RF, and many other 12" subs. You should probably just lay out a budget, tell us EXACTLY what you want your subs to do (spl, sq, or both) and we can give advice accordingly. Going after subs and amps based on power specs is a fruitless endeavor.

I'll end with this...2 ED 10k's will cost $220. An Avionixx 800.2 will cost $285 (if you bought the JBL 600.1 instead of the Avionixx, you would save another $90...so the sub system would only be $415). That's just over $500 for a "budget" sub system that will most likely demolish, obliterate, and overall, butcher your friends RF system in every coceivable manner. You have to look past the power ratings on car audio equipment (btw, did you know the power rating system for car audio is not regulated. There are no industry accepted standards. Manufacturers can say whatever they want. PA does this quite often with their amps, for instance. Unless the specs are provided by a third party, like a magazine review or a DUMAX report, the specs can be easily fudged. Look past the "power ratings").