FYI. Here is a post from a user on ANOTHER site.

Its seems FORD may be listening.

"I am a dealer so I want to quickly give you guys an update:

Ford knows of ALL existing problems. They have a fix for 75% of the concerns which now are closed concerns. They now have a handle on 2/3 of the remaining concerns. They will have all problems worked out by August '03 with a new Program (R15 - coming soon) to be released to fix ALL existing problems. They have just upped the man power and budget and started what they call "The Diesel Task Force" to fix and eliminate all 6.0 problems. They are working very hard and are getting VERY organized about this. Power Stroke makes up 65% of Super Duty sales and out sells Chevy Duramax 3:1 in Texas and over 2:1 in the Denver region. In some cases out sells Duramax and Cummins combined. So Ford isn't taking this lightly. This is a big money maker for Ford and they will help 6.0 customers get the help they are seeking. I hope all of you that are having problems can hold out a couple more months because I am more than positive International and FMC will have all problems fixed with an updated software program. Right now the rolling/rough idle is one of the biggest problems they are working on. They are recalibrating and solving this problem. Stay tuned. For anymore stats or questions just post here and I will answer as accuratly as I can."

 

Then why did they take it "LIGHTLY" when they put the truck out to the public. I mean I can see if the problem poped up after 60k miles that they would have a reason to say hey we did not know. But then truck have under 5k miles and are not running right then someone did not do the homework.

 

Dmano1, you make it sound like every new 6.0 on the road is having these problems. Ford will get this fixed. I know of 6 brand new 6.0's and the guys aren't having any problems with them. The local dealer is keeping a very close watch, and are polling the owners of every new truck they sell, to make sure that everything is working right.

 

I don't think its every truck but it is a higher # than should be expected. You pay 40k for a truck. I think they can put that money to better use like R&D at least I hope thats where some of my money goes to when I buy a truck.

 

dman, don't they have a dodge msg board somewhere? Just wondering, cause all you seem to do is badmouth Ford trucks. I'm sure glad dodge has never had a problem with anything.... ... see ya'all later, I gotta go pull a dodge ram outta my grill

PS I support Bush too! And I like all American made trucks.

 

Mark buddy you do know that Ford has a plant in Mexico I don't think I ever said Dodge never had any problems. You might want to try to read what I wrote again. I have a dictionary if you need to look up the big words. I would feel the same as what I wrote if it were Dodge or Chevy. There is no reason for any truck maker to put out a truck with such a large # of problems. YES I KNOW NOT EVERY TRUCK HAS PROBLEMS. Af few problems is bound to happen. Look at the 03 Dodge. It has one reflash a metal bracket for on of the belt that might crack only on the first one made. Nobodys perfect and if anyone thinks so they have more problems than a mental Hospital and handle

 

dman
I guess I should have added more smiley faces to my post... Yes Ford has a plant in Mexice, the CrownVic I used to drive on duty was made in Canada, but I still like "American" made = American brand = American Corporate location trucks. I got out my dictionay to make sure I spelled it out correctly...

They all have their problems, and it looks like some 6.0's are no exception... of course mine has been flawless thus far and I'm glad I made the choice....

 

mark 836,
I would say you made the right choice if you like American made trucks and also the best truck on the market as you know the Dodge is made in Mexico and owned by a German company. A lot of people don't buy into this but I do and I think the folks at the Indy Navistar Plant, Huntsville Navistar Plant, and Ford Kentucky Truck Plant do too. It's nice to see someone else feels the same as I do. It's nice to know a product like this can still be built in the Good Ole USA by an American Company.
Greg

 

I agree with dman too. So should I go to the Dodge forum? All I know is, the F-150 used to go through miles and miles and miles of testing in all climates before Ford would even think about releasing it to the public. That is how Ford became #1 in my opinion. With this new PSD / tranny combo., you can tell they didn't even do much planning, much less testing. Releasing a $40K truck to the public that you are taking a 50/50 chance on being able to drive is nothing short of an insult. Shame on Ford for not fixing the problems BEFORE these guys spent their hard-earned money on them.

You can say dman01 badmouths Fords all you want. But really he does not try to start fights...he's just calling it like he sees it. I love Ford trucks too, but facts are facts. If the 6.0L is junk, and he says it's junk, then what crime did he commit?

 

This is a great comment. Calling it like he sees it. And he owns a Dodge, or at least his signature says he does. Crime? Well no of course it's not a crime in the literal sense. I happen to think it's a crime for somebody who owns a Dodge to call another brand that he has only heard about JUNK. That is a very strong term that would apply more toward the old TC-3's. Anybody remember that fine Dodge product? Or maybe the Yugo. Anyway to use the word couldn't be further from the truth. Do you guys realize that these things are selling like hot cakes. Yeah, most people that I know that have bills and mortgages rush right out and blow $40k for junk. In fact there's about 200k of those people that will be doing this from startup to sometime next year. Can you imagine a quarter of a million of these pieces of junk on the road. Oh my God the freeways will be littered with them. Maybe the cities will just start using them as center dividers to save money on those big concrete barriers. Oooh oooh oooh, I think I pulled a muscle LMAO.

 

You're right...that's exactly what's happening. Scary, isn't it?


I guess we could look at the bright side: more jobs are opening up at Ford dealership service departments now. That should help our slow economy just a tad, huh?

 

You've been watching Armageddon way too much lately!

 

I never called them flat out JUNK
I wish Dodge had a 5spd auto. But I never drive autos
I was just saying that it was not a bright idea for Ford to release this truck when if they would just have waited a few years to perfect it they could have put a big hurting on Dodge and chevy for having a 325hp truck that only has a few little problems. I know a few guys that own the 6.0 Diesels. does that make me a expert Heck no. If I say what I read on this site and its wrong then why it it on this site?

 

Yeah...I never said the word "dodge" in this thread, but for some reason he jumped my case too. All I was saying is we aren't going on hearsay...for every person who likes their 6.0 PSD in this forum there are 5 that have been in the shop more than they've been on the road. Ford might sell 200K of them this year, because they are NEW and Ford advertised the crap out of it. But if quality doesn't pick up soon, I guarantee Ford won't keep selling many of them next year or the year after.

Anyway, the PSD would win a 1/4 mile dragrace, so I guess it's still a better engine

 

Dman01, I actually agree with you on this. Ford had a perfectly good, top notch, #1 selling motor in the 7.3. They should have done more R&D to get the product right in the first place.

I truly believe that the main reason they did push the 6.0 was because of the hp difference between the 7.3 vs the Cummins and Duracrap.

Man I still can't believe that you wrote something that I agree to.