Notices
1987 - 1996 F150 & Larger F-Series Trucks 1987 - 1996 Ford F-150, F-250, F-350 and larger pickups - including the 1997 heavy-duty F250/F350+ trucks

Change Gearing?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Aug 1, 2013 | 10:10 AM
  #1  
Mike1's Avatar
Mike1
Thread Starter
|
Lead Driver
20 Year Member
Community Builder
Community Influencer
Liked
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 6,258
Likes: 438
From: IL
Change Gearing?

95 F250 4x4 5.8L 5sp. The thing I don't like is If I use 1st gear I'll roll the truck about 5 feet before I have to shift. If I start in 2nd gear it does ok but there is a little bit of clutch feathering. I don't want to wear out the clutch and I hate using 1st gear. I was thinking It might need to have the gearing changed in the diffs. How can I tell what I have in there now and what I should change it to? Are there numbers on the diffs I can read and translate? Would putting say a 3:73 in as opposed to if it has 4:11's now, improve the mpg? Any thought's are appreciated.

Thanks.
 
Reply
Old Aug 1, 2013 | 10:48 AM
  #2  
Joey92's Avatar
Joey92
New User
Joined: Jan 2011
Posts: 12
Likes: 0
Look at the sticker in the door jam, then go here

Ford Door Sticker Decoder .: Articles
 
Reply
Old Aug 1, 2013 | 12:41 PM
  #3  
Mike1's Avatar
Mike1
Thread Starter
|
Lead Driver
20 Year Member
Community Builder
Community Influencer
Liked
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 6,258
Likes: 438
From: IL
Originally Posted by Joey92
Look at the sticker in the door jam, then go here

Ford Door Sticker Decoder .: Articles
Thanks, I'll check it out. I never really looked but there may not be a sticker on the door jam. Any other way to get the numbers if the sticker is missing?
 
Reply
Old Aug 1, 2013 | 03:59 PM
  #4  
ATC Crazy's Avatar
ATC Crazy
Hotshot
Community Builder
Loved
Community Favorite
Top Answer: 10
Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 12,338
Likes: 4,349
From: SW VA
If you really are only moving 5 feet before needing to shift to 2nd...then you should be starting off in 2nd. I've never driven a ZF5, so I don't know how the ratios are. A gear swap is an awfully expensive solution to a minor inconvenience.

When I had my Cummins, I was in 4th gear by the end of the intersection.
 
Reply
Old Aug 1, 2013 | 07:52 PM
  #5  
Mike1's Avatar
Mike1
Thread Starter
|
Lead Driver
20 Year Member
Community Builder
Community Influencer
Liked
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 6,258
Likes: 438
From: IL
Originally Posted by ATC Crazy
If you really are only moving 5 feet before needing to shift to 2nd...then you should be starting off in 2nd. I've never driven a ZF5, so I don't know how the ratios are. A gear swap is an awfully expensive solution to a minor inconvenience.

When I had my Cummins, I was in 4th gear by the end of the intersection.
It's not just the shifting, If I have to drive the truck to work it's about 34 miles round trip. That 34 miles cost me $20.00. Basically that 5 gallons of gas at $4.00 a gallon. That's about 6.8 miles to the gallon. That's a lot of gas.
 
Reply
Old Aug 1, 2013 | 08:02 PM
  #6  
Conanski's Avatar
Conanski
FTE Legend
15 Year Member
Photogenic
Photoriffic
Community Builder
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 31,930
Likes: 1,499
From: Ottawa, Ontario
If the door jamb decal is missing crawl under the truck and look for a tag hanging off one of the rear diff cover bolts. The first few numbers on the tag are the gear ratio.. you may have to remove the bolt to see all the numbers.

With a ZF manual trans the gear ratio you want for fuel milage is 3.55, but you can get the same result by simply installing larger tires(33" or 35") as long as you remember to recalibrate the speedo.
 
Reply
Old Aug 1, 2013 | 08:03 PM
  #7  
parkerparkerm's Avatar
parkerparkerm
Elder User
Joined: Jun 2012
Posts: 650
Likes: 0
From: Plant city florida
Originally Posted by Mike1
It's not just the shifting, If I have to drive the truck to work it's about 34 miles round trip. That 34 miles cost me $20.00. Basically that 5 gallons of gas at $4.00 a gallon. That's about 6.8 miles to the gallon. That's a lot of gas.
ive never heard of a 351 getting less then 8 mpg and running correctly... you might want to check that out. my brother LITERALLY stomped it from stop sign to stop sign for an ENTIRE tank and averaged 8mpg. his truck is a 1990 F150 ECSB 4x4 351W/E4OD and we believe 3.55s.
 
Reply
Old Aug 1, 2013 | 08:13 PM
  #8  
BigBlockF350's Avatar
BigBlockF350
Posting Guru
Joined: Jan 2013
Posts: 1,933
Likes: 0
From: VA
Figure out why your fuel economy is so bad and fix it before you go doing anything else. Your MPG numbers should be 10+ with a 351 running empty.
 
Reply
FTE Stories

Ford Trucks for Ford Truck Enthusiasts

story-0

Top 10 Ford Truck Tragedies

 Joe Kucinski
story-1

AEV FXL Super Duty - the Super Duty Raptor Ford Doesn't Make

 Brett Foote
story-2

Lobo Vs Lobo: Proof the F-150 Lobo Should Be Even Lower!

 Michael S. Palmer
story-3

Ford's 2001 Explorer Sportsman Concept Looks For a New Home

 Verdad Gallardo
story-4

10 Best Ford Truck Engines We Miss the Most!

 Joe Kucinski
story-5

2026 Shelby F-150 Off-Road: Better Than a Raptor R?

 Brett Foote
story-6

2027 Super Duty Carhartt Package First Look: 12 Things You NEED to Know!

 Michael S. Palmer
story-7

10 Most Surprising 2026 Ford Truck Features!

 Joe Kucinski
story-8

Top 10 Ford Trucks Coming to Mecum Indy 2026

 Brett Foote
story-9

5 Best / 5 Worst Ford Truck Wheels of All Time

 Joe Kucinski
Old Aug 1, 2013 | 08:17 PM
  #9  
Mike1's Avatar
Mike1
Thread Starter
|
Lead Driver
20 Year Member
Community Builder
Community Influencer
Liked
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 6,258
Likes: 438
From: IL
Originally Posted by Joey92
Look at the sticker in the door jam, then go here

Ford Door Sticker Decoder .: Articles

Looks like this decoder doesn't have info for my truck, unless I'm just not using it right. The sticker on my door reads Axle 39 and springs are 65F.
 
Reply
Old Aug 1, 2013 | 08:19 PM
  #10  
Mike1's Avatar
Mike1
Thread Starter
|
Lead Driver
20 Year Member
Community Builder
Community Influencer
Liked
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 6,258
Likes: 438
From: IL
Originally Posted by Conanski
If the door jamb decal is missing crawl under the truck and look for a tag hanging off one of the rear diff cover bolts. The first few numbers on the tag are the gear ratio.. you may have to remove the bolt to see all the numbers.

With a ZF manual trans the gear ratio you want for fuel milage is 3.55, but you can get the same result by simply installing larger tires(33" or 35") as long as you remember to recalibrate the speedo.

Running stock 235/85/16.
 
Reply
Old Aug 1, 2013 | 08:29 PM
  #11  
Mike1's Avatar
Mike1
Thread Starter
|
Lead Driver
20 Year Member
Community Builder
Community Influencer
Liked
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 6,258
Likes: 438
From: IL
Originally Posted by BigBlockF350
Figure out why your fuel economy is so bad and fix it before you go doing anything else. Your MPG numbers should be 10+ with a 351 running empty.
Well I pulled the air filter earlier today and I noticed that it has some oil on it, Im thinking I might be getting some blow by. The truck only has 128k on it, but it's been worked...It's lifted with extra springs and arch. It has custom DMI bumpers front and back, with plow frame & pump incorporated into front bumper. If I remove the bumpers, I'll probably lighten the truck by 400 - 600 pounds. This is no speed demon, I have to use the right hand lane when leaving a red light because it just doesn't get to speed that quick but it'll haul anything you put in it or hook to it and never groan. It'll pull a house down if you want it to, but it'll also run at 70mph if it's on the freeway with no problems.

If I could get 10+ in town driving, I'd be like a kid in a candy store. what should I be looking at first? Plugs, wires, Timing?
 
Reply
Old Aug 1, 2013 | 09:12 PM
  #12  
OldGrayFord's Avatar
OldGrayFord
Senior User
Joined: Dec 2012
Posts: 209
Likes: 0
From: Coastal Washington State
Yes all those things. Fresh oil, air cleaner, tire pressure, cap and rotor. What size tires are you running?any chanc you odometer is off? I'd be epe ting at least low teens probably better
 
Reply
Old Aug 2, 2013 | 08:08 AM
  #13  
rla2005's Avatar
rla2005
Fleet Owner
20 Year Member
Community Builder
Liked
Community Favorite
Joined: Oct 2005
Posts: 20,785
Likes: 1,751
From: Kentucky
Originally Posted by Mike1
Looks like this decoder doesn't have info for my truck, unless I'm just not using it right. The sticker on my door reads Axle 39 and springs are 65F.
According to my 1995 Ford manual axle code 39 is a 3.55 gear ratio (non-limited slip).
 
Reply
Old Aug 2, 2013 | 10:50 AM
  #14  
Mike1's Avatar
Mike1
Thread Starter
|
Lead Driver
20 Year Member
Community Builder
Community Influencer
Liked
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 6,258
Likes: 438
From: IL
Originally Posted by rla2005
According to my 1995 Ford manual axle code 39 is a 3.55 gear ratio (non-limited slip).
Not knowing much about gear ratios, is that a good road gear? Like I said, it cruises 70mph no problem just kind of slow coming off a light. I can live with starting out in 2nd gear so that's no biggie.

I plan on looking at plug, wires cap, Rotor if it has one, the oil only has about 1000 miles on it. Would a clogged PCV valve cause oil in the breather? Last time I had blow by it was on an old 68 500 fastback and it was blowing out of the dip stick as well. The truck isn't doing that.

I'll also check to see if maybe the brakes are dragging, I have to replace the right upper ball joint anyway and the steering gearbox is making the whirring sound so I don't know if it's wore out or can be adjusted either. If cost get's to be prohibitive then I'll offer it up for sale to one of you guys or I'll just part it out and send the rest to the scrapper.
 
Reply
Old Aug 2, 2013 | 11:47 AM
  #15  
rla2005's Avatar
rla2005
Fleet Owner
20 Year Member
Community Builder
Liked
Community Favorite
Joined: Oct 2005
Posts: 20,785
Likes: 1,751
From: Kentucky
3.55 gears are a reasonable compromise assuming stock height tires. I had a 1992 F350 4x4 with 5.8L/E4OD combination. The tires were stock height, but wider. It also had 3.55 gears. It was a marginal performer when towing anything. I had seriously considered 4.56s, but my long term plan did not include keeping it for an extended period.

Oil in the airbox is definitely a sign of a plugged or faulty PCV.
 
Reply



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 07:54 AM.

story-0
Top 10 Ford Truck Tragedies

Slideshow: Top 10 Ford truck tragedies.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-18 19:34:33


VIEW MORE
story-1
AEV FXL Super Duty - the Super Duty Raptor Ford Doesn't Make

And it might be even better than that.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-18 19:26:42


VIEW MORE
story-2
Lobo Vs Lobo: Proof the F-150 Lobo Should Be Even Lower!

Slideshow: Does lowering an F-150 Lobo RUIN the ride quality?

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-05-18 19:20:37


VIEW MORE
story-3
Ford's 2001 Explorer Sportsman Concept Looks For a New Home

Slideshow: Ford's bizarre fishing-themed Explorer concept has resurfaced after spending decades largely forgotten.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-12 18:07:46


VIEW MORE
story-4
10 Best Ford Truck Engines We Miss the Most!

Slideshow: The 10 best Ford truck engines we miss the most.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-12 13:09:47


VIEW MORE
story-5
2026 Shelby F-150 Off-Road: Better Than a Raptor R?

Slideshow: first look at the 810 hp 2026 Shelby F-150 Off-Road!

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-12 12:50:07


VIEW MORE
story-6
2027 Super Duty Carhartt Package First Look: 12 Things You NEED to Know!

Slideshow: Everything You Need to Know about the 2027 Super Duty Carhartt Package!

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-05-07 17:51:06


VIEW MORE
story-7
10 Most Surprising 2026 Ford Truck Features!

Slideshow: 10 most surprising Ford truck options/features in 2026.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-05 11:17:22


VIEW MORE
story-8
Top 10 Ford Trucks Coming to Mecum Indy 2026

Slideshow: Here are the top 10 Fords coming to Mecum Indy 2026.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-04 13:49:49


VIEW MORE
story-9
5 Best / 5 Worst Ford Truck Wheels of All Time

Slideshow: The 5 best and 5 worst Ford truck wheels of all time

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-04-29 16:49:01


VIEW MORE