rough idle misfire
Post All code Numbers you were getting in the beginning of this trouble shoot & all code numbers you now have after replacing each of the parts & the vendor name for each part.
As I read it, the computer, crank sensor, cam sensor & coilpack have been replaced at various times in the trouble shoot & as I understand it, you are now getting misfire codes for cyls 2-3-6 & a P0315???? If so, after which replaced part did which trouble code come about????? EDIT: When you replaced the cam sensor, was its sync assy also replaced & if so name the vendor. Are you now hearing any noise from the cam sensor area?
If you have, or can come by a scantool that'll perform a cylinder balance test, do that & post the results.
EDIT: On the rough idle, are the plug wires routed Exactly as the factory had them, using All of the wire looms & stand offs???? When its doing this rough idle, at night, raise the hood & look for arcs & sparks from the coilpack , along the plug wires, to the plugs themselves. Maybe do a "wet down test" of each plug wire & coilpack with a spray bottle of water, while looking for an arcs & sparks light show, or a change in idle.
You say this 3.0L doesn't have an EGR valve, so are you Certain that you have the correct computer & its program is to the latest version for this engine????
the dealer did reprogramming of the pcm so im assuming everything was programmed right. but there always is that small possibility...what would the cylinder balance test show me?
Have you done an end to end resistance check with your multimeter on the plug wires???? They should measure about 1000 ohms/inch of length, 30,000 ohms max no matter the length.
With the variation in the timing light flashing, we need to know if you still have the P0315 trouble code???? If so, you need to find out whats going on there, put it right, then have another look with the timing light at each plug for which you had a misfire code.
After which part replacement did the P0315 code show up & after which part replacement did the multi-cyl misfire codes begin to show up????
Have you done an end to end resistance check with your multimeter on the plug wires???? They should measure about 1000 ohms/inch of length, 30,000 ohms max no matter the length.
With the variation in the timing light flashing, we need to know if you still have the P0315 trouble code???? If so, you need to find out whats going on there, put it right, then have another look with the timing light at each plug for which you had a misfire code.
After which part replacement did the P0315 code show up & after which part replacement did the multi-cyl misfire codes begin to show up????
Driving it with a misfire can cause the cat converter to over heat, its matrix to melt down, causing excessive exhaust back pressure & that'll cause the engine to run hot, all a vicious circle.
Since you've used other than OEM parts, it would be wise to test them to make sure they measure up, as our waste spark ignition system puts a double work load on them, so they need to be designed to handle that load without laying down. Just because a part is new doesn't automatically make it good, I've seen plenty of faulty new parts, right out of the box.
Was the engine over heating when the heater control failed????
Sounds like you have numerous problems, make sure your replacement parts say in writing that they meet or exceed Fords specs, then check the replacement parts to make sure they're ok.
On working trouble codes, we're supposed to begin with the Lowest Number trouble code & work our way up the list, so keep us posted on how your trouble shoot goes.
I have been bombarded with work and have not had too many opportunities to check in, but after reading updates, I'm just shaking my head. Wow, Dirtrider, I feel so bad for you and can't believe how much trouble this truck has given you!!! Burned you on top of it all!! Well, it can only get better from here ~truck has to give-up the bad behavior sometime. Thanks to Pawpaw now chiming in too, hoping he may provide some insight you and I overlooked. So far I agree with all he stated as far as the parts are concerned. Stay positive D.R.!
I thought of a few things. The rockers are 'tighten to torque' for valve adjustment. With the heads being redone, and the valves ground, you might have taken up all the slack in the valve train, and one or more valves may not be seating fully. That will show more at idle than at speed. You can remove the covers, and loosen the rocker arm nuts a bit with the engine at idle, especially #3, and see if the idle smooths out. If so, you need a shorter pushrod.
You could also take a look at the waveform from the cam and crank position sensors. The P0315 shop manual explanation of the code makes me think that one has a bad output, which the ECM cannot compensate past. The SEFI system, if it doesn't know the correct cylinder, will also produce a 'wobbly' idle. It will run, but not as well as when it injects into the correct port that is opening up. The cam position sensor tells the ECM which cylinder is coming up to its intake stroke, and allows proper injection timing.
The crank position sensor is used to determine which cylinder is misfiring by calculating the rpm drop between power strokes, or after a cylinder fires, the rpm increase. It 'knows' which cylinder just fired using the cam sensor, and outputs its code based on that. If the cam sensor is 'off', the ECM won't know that, and will mis-report a problem.
The Cylinder Balance Test will use the ECM to disable the spark or injector pulse for one cylinder at a time, and then note the rpm drop. If the rpm doesn't drop, that particular cylinder is not contributing much to the engines operation. IOW, that cylinder is not firing and producing torque, or less output than the others.
tom
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I thought of a few things. The rockers are 'tighten to torque' for valve adjustment. With the heads being redone, and the valves ground, you might have taken up all the slack in the valve train, and one or more valves may not be seating fully. That will show more at idle than at speed. You can remove the covers, and loosen the rocker arm nuts a bit with the engine at idle, especially #3, and see if the idle smooths out. If so, you need a shorter pushrod.
You could also take a look at the waveform from the cam and crank position sensors. The P0315 shop manual explanation of the code makes me think that one has a bad output, which the ECM cannot compensate past. The SEFI system, if it doesn't know the correct cylinder, will also produce a 'wobbly' idle. It will run, but not as well as when it injects into the correct port that is opening up. The cam position sensor tells the ECM which cylinder is coming up to its intake stroke, and allows proper injection timing.
The crank position sensor is used to determine which cylinder is misfiring by calculating the rpm drop between power strokes, or after a cylinder fires, the rpm increase. It 'knows' which cylinder just fired using the cam sensor, and outputs its code based on that. If the cam sensor is 'off', the ECM won't know that, and will mis-report a problem.
The Cylinder Balance Test will use the ECM to disable the spark or injector pulse for one cylinder at a time, and then note the rpm drop. If the rpm doesn't drop, that particular cylinder is not contributing much to the engines operation. IOW, that cylinder is not firing and producing torque, or less output than the others.
tom
i measured the stem height on each of the exhaust and intake valves and they were all quite a bit different then each other. so i put shims under the rocker arms to compensate for the valve not seating. thus making the push rod a little bit shorter in theory. the truck ran even worse so i took the shims out. but when i pull off the injector wire fore cylinder #3 it doesnt change how it idles. on other cylinders when i pull the injector wire there is a noticeable drop in rpm and it idles even crappier. but nothing changes when i pull off #3 injector wire
EDIT: when at idle and i loosen the BOLTS for exhaust or intake on cylinder #3 it idles really bad and wants to stall








