Notices
1980 - 1986 Bullnose F100, F150 & Larger F-Series Trucks Discuss the Early Eighties Bullnose Ford Truck

Quick Emissions Questions

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Jul 8, 2013 | 11:15 PM
  #1  
jb_man's Avatar
jb_man
Thread Starter
|
Freshman User
Joined: Jun 2013
Posts: 27
Likes: 0
Quick Emissions Questions

Before anything else, thank you all for your help in the past. I got the new harmonic balancer in (the Dorman one worked perfectly, and seems great), I almost have the fuel tank issue tracked down (dash switch, I'm almost certain, now), and I'm ordering a new timing set next week. So much to do!

Anyway, I have a few questions about the emissions system, or lack thereof.

Firstly. the EGR appears to be missing... What should I do about it?



Secondly, what is this thing? Can I get rid of this rat's nest of piping?



Thirdly, most pictures I've seen show pipes coming off of the exhaust manifolds for the exhaust system. Did the previous owner replace those with older manifolds instead of plugging the holes?



Lastly, what is this piping going into the top of the intake manifold? It's sitting just beneath and to the left of my carburetor. There is a diamond shaped flange with two metal pipes going into it.

 
Reply
Old Jul 9, 2013 | 07:32 AM
  #2  
ArdWrknTrk's Avatar
ArdWrknTrk
pedant
Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 23,576
Likes: 40
From: EXTREME southwest CT
Club FTE Silver Member

What year is this truck (and engine)?

I see your EGR valve in the first photo.
It's just to the left of that orange tube or wire... (rusty kickdown linkage?)

Second; looks emissions related.
Where do the vacuum lines lead to?

Third; those are non-A.I.R. exhaust manifolds.

Forth; That is the choke stove.
It is a loop or coil of tubing that sits in the exhaust crossover.
It should be connected to your carburetor.
 
Reply
Old Jul 9, 2013 | 08:28 AM
  #3  
dustybumpers's Avatar
dustybumpers
FTE Legend
Joined: May 2008
Posts: 56,542
Likes: 0
From: In my own world
Picture 2 is a vacuum pump for an 85 ford
 
Reply
Old Jul 9, 2013 | 08:51 AM
  #4  
ArdWrknTrk's Avatar
ArdWrknTrk
pedant
Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 23,576
Likes: 40
From: EXTREME southwest CT
Club FTE Silver Member

Charlie,
What's it's purpose on a gas engine?
 
Reply
Old Jul 9, 2013 | 09:07 AM
  #5  
jb_man's Avatar
jb_man
Thread Starter
|
Freshman User
Joined: Jun 2013
Posts: 27
Likes: 0
Originally Posted by ArdWrknTrk
What year is this truck (and engine)?

I see your EGR valve in the first photo.
It's just to the left of that orange tube or wire... (rusty kickdown linkage?)

Second; looks emissions related.
Where do the vacuum lines lead to?

Third; those are non-A.I.R. exhaust manifolds.

Forth; That is the choke stove.
It is a loop or coil of tubing that sits in the exhaust crossover.
It should be connected to your carburetor.
Ah, sorry, I should have said that this is an 83 f250 with a 460.

The pipe in the first photo looks like it goes to some sort of Y, and there's a little vacuum on it when the engine is running, but it doesn't appear to be doing anything else. The kickdown linkage is just painted yellow *shrug*. Here's a closer picture... If this is the EGR, then cool, but it doesn't quite look like some pictures I've seen.



In the second picture, one of the vacuum lines runs from the back of the unit to a canister on the back of the carburetor, and another to a blocky thing on the right...






And everything pretty much ends up either here, or on another one of these trees coming out of a tap in the head.



It looks like a bowl of spaghetti in there.
 
Reply
Old Jul 9, 2013 | 09:20 AM
  #6  
ArdWrknTrk's Avatar
ArdWrknTrk
pedant
Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 23,576
Likes: 40
From: EXTREME southwest CT
Club FTE Silver Member

No, that is the A.I.R. crossover checkvalve. the pipe goes to the thermactor port at the back of either head.
The EGR valve is the flat can looking thing with a vacuum line going to it JUST to the left of the kickdown in your first pic.
You can see it better in the second pic of your above post.

The 'blocky' black and brown thing is a vacuum delay valve (VDV)
It needs to be connected to the EGR valve ("canister")

The yellow 'tree' is a thermal valve and on my truck controls whether the distributor gets restricted or full manifold vacuum for the advance.

There should be a vacuum diagram on top of the radiator support and another one on the drivers side valve cover.
If you can't figure it out from there try and post a clear pic of the diagram.
 
Reply
Old Jul 9, 2013 | 09:31 AM
  #7  
jb_man's Avatar
jb_man
Thread Starter
|
Freshman User
Joined: Jun 2013
Posts: 27
Likes: 0
Great, thanks. I hadn't been able to find the diagram, and I assumed that it had been painted over, since the trucks original color was red. I'll look some more!
 
Reply
Old Jul 9, 2013 | 09:38 AM
  #8  
ArdWrknTrk's Avatar
ArdWrknTrk
pedant
Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 23,576
Likes: 40
From: EXTREME southwest CT
Club FTE Silver Member

Well, I can see it in your exhaust manifold picture.
 
Reply
FTE Stories

Ford Trucks for Ford Truck Enthusiasts

story-0

This Hennessey Takes the Expedition Tremor's Off-Roading Capability to the Next Level

 Verdad Gallardo
story-1

Top 10 Fords at 2026 Carlisle Ford Nationals

 Joe Kucinski
story-2

3 Best / 3 Worst Parts of Modern Ford Ownership

 Brett Foote
story-3

10 Amazing Upgrades That Solve Common Ford Truck Owner Headaches

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-4

Every 2026 Ford Engine Explained

 Brett Foote
story-5

10 Ugly Ford Trucks That We Still Kinda Love

 Joe Kucinski
story-6

10 Things Every Truck Owner NEEDS (2026 Edition)

 Michael S. Palmer
story-7

Rezvani's Latest Post-Apocalyptic Monster Is a Ford F-150 Raptor Underneath

 Verdad Gallardo
story-8

Top 10 Most Expensive Ford Trucks Ever Sold on Bring a Trailer

 Joe Kucinski
story-9

2027 Ford Super Duty Buyer's Guide (Every Model, Engine, & Package)

 Brett Foote
Old Jul 9, 2013 | 10:25 AM
  #9  
jb_man's Avatar
jb_man
Thread Starter
|
Freshman User
Joined: Jun 2013
Posts: 27
Likes: 0
Originally Posted by ArdWrknTrk
Well, I can see it in your exhaust manifold picture.
I have never felt so dumb. Lol. I'm certain I never would have seen it in plain sight, there...
 
Reply
Old Jul 9, 2013 | 10:40 AM
  #10  
ArdWrknTrk's Avatar
ArdWrknTrk
pedant
Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 23,576
Likes: 40
From: EXTREME southwest CT
Club FTE Silver Member

There is a glossary to help explain the color coded hoses and all the acronyms.

https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/7...-acronyms.html

I'm not sure if Chris has put it in the sticky's, but it should be.
 
Reply
Old Jul 9, 2013 | 01:45 PM
  #11  
dustybumpers's Avatar
dustybumpers
FTE Legend
Joined: May 2008
Posts: 56,542
Likes: 0
From: In my own world
Originally Posted by ArdWrknTrk
Charlie,
What's it's purpose on a gas engine?
on early 351 460's it was a diverter valve between the 2 AIR pumps.

Which brings us to the picture of the hose with the clamp, and no vacuum. That is a "reed" valve, it goes to your exhaust , or the air tube on the cat. it comes from the AIR pump. he's missing a few things.
I have some pictures, I'll have to load them later when I'm on the lap top, not the tablet
 
Reply
Old Jul 9, 2013 | 01:51 PM
  #12  
ArdWrknTrk's Avatar
ArdWrknTrk
pedant
Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 23,576
Likes: 40
From: EXTREME southwest CT
Club FTE Silver Member

His valve cover says NON-CATALYST so I assume it is over 8,500#gvw and has no cats...

It must be blowing into the thermactor passages at the back of the head.
 
Reply
Old Jul 9, 2013 | 02:52 PM
  #13  
dustybumpers's Avatar
dustybumpers
FTE Legend
Joined: May 2008
Posts: 56,542
Likes: 0
From: In my own world
Yup. if you look at the fitting he posted in picture #2, it is on the tube that goes from head to head on the back of the motor.
 
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
JLmissouri
1973 - 1979 F-100 & Larger F-Series Trucks
1
Sep 9, 2018 01:55 PM
wintertruck87
1987 - 1996 F150 & Larger F-Series Trucks
28
Nov 21, 2014 10:34 AM
Dave10
1980 - 1986 Bullnose F100, F150 & Larger F-Series Trucks
21
Sep 29, 2014 09:00 AM
GaMachinist
1973 - 1979 F-100 & Larger F-Series Trucks
2
Nov 21, 2013 03:18 PM
1964Goat
1961 - 1966 F-100 & Larger F-Series Trucks
17
Mar 27, 2012 11:27 PM




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 10:01 PM.

story-0
This Hennessey Takes the Expedition Tremor's Off-Roading Capability to the Next Level

Slideshow: The VelociRaptor Expedition gains a lift, upgraded suspension, Brembo brakes, and trail-ready equipment while retaining the stock 440-horsepower EcoBoost V6.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-06-12 11:01:55


VIEW MORE
story-1
Top 10 Fords at 2026 Carlisle Ford Nationals

Slideshow: Top 10 Fords at 2026 Ford Nationals

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-06-09 11:10:08


VIEW MORE
story-2
3 Best / 3 Worst Parts of Modern Ford Ownership

Based on years of owning multiple modern Ford products.

By Brett Foote | 2026-06-09 10:53:36


VIEW MORE
story-3
10 Amazing Upgrades That Solve Common Ford Truck Owner Headaches

SPONSORED: From muddy boots to rain-soaked cargo, these upgrades address some of the most common frustrations Ford truck owners face every day.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-06-08 18:50:34


VIEW MORE
story-4
Every 2026 Ford Engine Explained

Here's everything you need to know about every Ford engine available for the 2026 model year.

By Brett Foote | 2026-06-05 12:58:01


VIEW MORE
story-5
10 Ugly Ford Trucks That We Still Kinda Love

Slideshow: 10 ugly Ford trucks that we still kinda love.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-06-03 09:51:16


VIEW MORE
story-6
10 Things Every Truck Owner NEEDS (2026 Edition)

Slideshow: the best gifts for dads & grads

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-06-03 15:43:58


VIEW MORE
story-7
Rezvani's Latest Post-Apocalyptic Monster Is a Ford F-150 Raptor Underneath

Slideshow: Called the Fortress, the 850-horsepower pickup combines Raptor underpinnings with military-inspired features, survival equipment, and a starting price of $285,000.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-06-03 11:38:36


VIEW MORE
story-8
Top 10 Most Expensive Ford Trucks Ever Sold on Bring a Trailer

Slideshow: 10 most expensive Ford trucks ever sold on Bring a Trailer.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-27 16:24:34


VIEW MORE
story-9
2027 Ford Super Duty Buyer's Guide (Every Model, Engine, & Package)

Here's everything that has changed for the latest model year.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-27 16:17:28


VIEW MORE