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Old Jul 8, 2013 | 04:25 PM
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E40D to manual

First, as a new member I must thank everyone for for solutions I've read of in past views of this forum. Now, I wish to share a recent dilemma:

I have a high mileage '94 E-250 with an E40D coupled to a 351. Three transmissions and thousands of $$ later, I've had it with the E40D. I've read of folks wanting to go to a C4, C6, or others. I don't want to do w/o the overdrive aspect on a high mileage engine. To get the remaining mileage out of this van I'd really like to switch to a 5 speed manual. What year(s) tranny/hydraulic clutch combination could be recommended? I'd prefer to have the slave cylinder [I]outside[I] the bell housing vs. inside it as is on my '93 F-150. Any suggestions? Thanks in advance. -Alan-
 
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Old Jul 15, 2013 | 11:48 AM
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Wow, 120 views and no suggestions. Oh well, guess I'll just have to go at and learn as I go.
 
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Old Jul 15, 2013 | 02:05 PM
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I think other people have tried but there isn't enough room in the foot box for the third pedal.
 
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Old Jul 15, 2013 | 02:19 PM
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I have a 95 with an E$OD with 300,000 miles and all Ive ever done is change fluid/filter periodiccly. So, my thought is why are you going thru transmissions? Who is doing them?What is going wrong with them?How are they being used?
 
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Old Jul 16, 2013 | 02:39 PM
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All I can offer is the memory that in the mid-late 70's, the E vans could be had with either a 3 on the tree (I had a buddy who had a '75 E150 with a 351 and a stick), and circa 1978, Ford offered a 4 speed manual overdrive trans in the vans (I had a '78 F100 pickup with that trans).

In theory, the old 4 speed OD would be a good swap, but the problem is that the trans was an old toploader 4 speed that swapped 3rd and 4th gear positions and put an overdrive where 3rd used to be. Over time, the countershaft bearings would fry.

In all honesty, I think you would be best to get a solid E4OD in your van, or sell out and buy a more modern van. Your '94 can't be worth that much, and I'm guessing a replacement van might not cost a lot more than the work required to replace transmissions, especially in the case of a manual trans transplant.

Best of luck,
George
 
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Old Jul 16, 2013 | 02:44 PM
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AODs have OD, they bolt to 351s and they can be built very strong (google AODominator) and if you find a proper PCM that does not have tranny logic in it, will run just fine.
 
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Old Jul 17, 2013 | 11:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Rick1025
I have a 95 with an E$OD with 300,000 miles and all Ive ever done is change fluid/filter periodiccly. So, my thought is why are you going thru transmissions? Who is doing them?What is going wrong with them?How are they being used?
I agree.....if changed once per year, you'll never have a failure.
 
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Old Jul 22, 2013 | 10:32 AM
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I was working under the dash of my 95 E350 bus and was looking at that possablity of going to a manual. Not much if any space is there for a clutch pedal assy and even less space near the booster for the clutch master cylinder. I bet it can be done but its all going to be custom work. Now if the clutch was a cable pull type, then there would be space......hmmm cable pulled clutch ZF5 tranny........


I miss that 3-on-the-tree Ford van my friend had......fun driving it around.
 
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