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Old Jul 6, 2013 | 11:00 AM
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Different timing pointer lengths?

I just put the crank pulley on my engine and found that the pointer sticks out too far. I believe the timing cover is from a 8ba car engine and the pulley is from a 8rt truck engine. Was there a difference in pointer lengths or do I have something else screwed up?

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Old Jul 6, 2013 | 11:42 AM
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I have a car engine and the pointer doesn't stick out that far, but my timing cover is from a Canadian engine, not sure if it's from a truck. Who knows? I'd paint the bump and the end of the point white while it's easy!
 
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Old Jul 6, 2013 | 12:08 PM
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I'm going to have to saw some off of the pointer. It rubs on the pulley. Then I'll paint it white.
 
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Old Jul 6, 2013 | 12:14 PM
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A Dremel cut-off wheel would do it without bending the pointer.
 
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Old Jul 6, 2013 | 06:33 PM
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You guys need to trade timing covers! I just bent mine up a bit to clear the pulley. - Bob
 
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Old Jul 6, 2013 | 07:03 PM
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I couldn't see Ross' picture while i was out and about today from my "smart" phone. I can see it now that I'm home. You're right. His looks too short and mines too long. I amazes me how many slight variations there are to these motors.
 
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Old Jul 8, 2013 | 09:24 PM
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Originally Posted by brkellogg
I couldn't see Ross' picture while i was out and about today from my "smart" phone. I can see it now that I'm home. You're right. His looks too short and mines too long. I amazes me how many slight variations there are to these motors.
8RT-6023 .. Timing Pointer ~ 1948/53 trucks w/239 flatty.

8BA-6023 listed in car parts catalog for 1949/53:
 
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A heads up to anyone with a mismatched set; While my engine was apart, I checked the accuracy of the pointer and bump on the crankshaft pulley. The bump is supposed to be at 3 deg. BTDC when aligned with the pointer. Mine is not. It is at TDC. A small difference, but worth compensating for. I can't say what a car timing cover with a truck pulley would result in. (mine is truck timing cover, car pulley)
 
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Did you try the "positive stop method" of finding TDC or just the indicator set-up? The postive stop method might have given you a different end result. It's usually a bit more accurate. With the indicator method, the crank can sometimes move quite a bit with little or no movement at the piston.
 
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Mine is an 8RT with all the original bits and bobs.

It has the short pointer like Ross's, with the original wide-belt pulleys.
 
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Originally Posted by 52 4x4
Did you try the "positive stop method" of finding TDC or just the indicator set-up? The positive stop method might have given you a different end result. It's usually a bit more accurate. With the indicator method, the crank can sometimes move quite a bit with little or no movement at the piston.
No, but I approached TDC from both directions, complete rotations, etc. I was surprised how definite the indicator was at detecting movement that the eye or finger couldn't detect. Also surprised how far down the hole the pistons are at TDC... On a flathead you can't use a dummy spark plug for a stop.
 
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Originally Posted by EffieTrucker
Mine is an 8RT with all the original bits and bobs.

It has the short pointer like Ross's, with the original wide-belt pulleys.

Is your pointer in the upper position (8RT) or lower position (0BA). ? Appears in upper position.
Also i can't see it but does your aluminum cover have the provision for longer shaft that goes into the hole for support beyond the gear?

I know there are quite a few variations on these covers but the upper pointer position on these aluminum ones say 8RT
Lower position says 0BA.

I don't have many cast iron ones here to compare but a couple for this really old thread..
Cast iron. Cant tell if pointer is in lower or upper position the cast iron section where pointer is located is narrow. This was on a 49 ish 8cm that was rebuilt, not sure if those parts where original.or got swapped around.
Cast iron. Can't tell if pointer is in lower or upper position the cast iron section where pointer is located is narrow. This was on a 49 ish 8cm that was rebuilt, not sure if those parts where original.or got swapped around.

Aluminum from unknown year engine . Pointer in lower position. Cover without provision for distributor guide
Cast iron from unknown year engine . Pointer in lower position.for car.
Cast iron lower position. Car?  Runner engine. Unknown history.
Cast iron lower position. Car? Runner engine. Unknown history.
Aluminum. Pointer in 8RT position ( upper)
Aluminum. Pointer in 8RT position ( upper)
Aluminum pointer in lower (0BA ) position. Car?   With shaft guide for distributor.  Long pointer.
Aluminum pointer in lower (0BA ) position. Car? With shaft guide for distributor. Long pointer.


Aluminum. Pointer in 8RT position. Short pointer. No provision for distributor shaft guide.
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Two styles of distributors to my knowledge.
 

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