C6 with 65/66 Auto Column
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C6 with 65/66 Auto Column
Hey,
I got all the parts together to put my C6 transmission into my 66 F100 but I wanting to use an auto steering column vs putting it in the floor. My steering column was a 3 speed but that was removed even before I got it.
I found a few old 65/66 F100's that came with automatic transmissions. Would the column out of one of these work with the C6? What about the stock linkage to the transmission?
Thanks
I got all the parts together to put my C6 transmission into my 66 F100 but I wanting to use an auto steering column vs putting it in the floor. My steering column was a 3 speed but that was removed even before I got it.
I found a few old 65/66 F100's that came with automatic transmissions. Would the column out of one of these work with the C6? What about the stock linkage to the transmission?
Thanks
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The original Slick would have come with a C-O-M auto that has an extra drive selection. Check with Mr. Wilson to find first year C6 was offered.
Have you considered the power disc brake, power steering upgrade? Going that route with a 73-76 FE & C6 donor might be a good option.
John
Have you considered the power disc brake, power steering upgrade? Going that route with a 73-76 FE & C6 donor might be a good option.
John
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Hi John,
Well that is bad new that the 65/66 auto column wont work. I guess the hunt continues for a column then. I guess I need to find a 73-76 truck. Do you know if I have to do any rewiring for the 73-76 column to work?
I already have the power disk brake swap on my 66 that I need to finish plumbing. However, the previous owner put in a 351W and that motor only has a 100 miles on a fresh rebuild. The C6 going in is also fresh so swapping all that for a higher mileage drive train that will probably need to be rebuilt isn't something I really want to currently do.
Thanks
Mike
Well that is bad new that the 65/66 auto column wont work. I guess the hunt continues for a column then. I guess I need to find a 73-76 truck. Do you know if I have to do any rewiring for the 73-76 column to work?
I already have the power disk brake swap on my 66 that I need to finish plumbing. However, the previous owner put in a 351W and that motor only has a 100 miles on a fresh rebuild. The C6 going in is also fresh so swapping all that for a higher mileage drive train that will probably need to be rebuilt isn't something I really want to currently do.
Thanks
Mike
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I still have manual steering. I converted the brakes to power but have not converted the steering.
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Really not that hard to figure out. 73-76. Take ALL - steering column, power steering pump & gear box, power brake booster, front dics, ALL the steering linkage and spindle, I-beams,,, everything. Than just install it... Don't forget the trans kick down rod and linkage. Speedo cable. AND a bottle of brandy. Don't FORGET the proportioning valve for the brakes.
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Then yes, it will work. I did my C6 coversion way before I did my disc brake and power steering conversion. I used the linkage from the COM and everything worked fine. I drove it like that for a year before doing the ps/pdb upgrade. Once you do the ps upgrade, you will need to change columns or have your column shortened.
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Mark is correct, you can wait on changing your column until you get around to upgrading to power steering. My 65' came with automatic. When it came time to upgrade to power steering, I opted to cut 3" from the length rather than pay for a parts yard one. John as well as other did the smart thing and just bought the whole later model truck as a 'parts truck' with everything they needed. Smart way to do it if you have a place to put the extra truck and/or parts. Take what parts you need and sell the rest. Heck, you might even come out ahead if your lucky.
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Thanks for the info guys.
I have not installed an auto column yet. Unfortunately, I can't just take the PS parts from a 73-76 truck since I have a 351 Windsor in mine. I most certainly would have gone that route if I could have and I already have the disk brake setup installed on mine.
Currently in my area I know of 4 65-66 F100's sitting for parts, all automatics. One has a complete 352/Auto drive train in it still. That is why I was asking but it looks like I may end up just going with an aftermarket column from ididit. I did not want to spend that much but I also don't care to rewire things for the new column either as it seems I would need to.
Thanks
I have not installed an auto column yet. Unfortunately, I can't just take the PS parts from a 73-76 truck since I have a 351 Windsor in mine. I most certainly would have gone that route if I could have and I already have the disk brake setup installed on mine.
Currently in my area I know of 4 65-66 F100's sitting for parts, all automatics. One has a complete 352/Auto drive train in it still. That is why I was asking but it looks like I may end up just going with an aftermarket column from ididit. I did not want to spend that much but I also don't care to rewire things for the new column either as it seems I would need to.
Thanks
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Steel reservoir P/S pump is essentially the same 1965/1977, doesn't matter if car or truck, or if the engine is a 302/351C/351M/351W/360/390/400/429/460 or whatever. Only the mounting brackets are different.
1975/91 Econoline 351W uses the Saginaw "canned ham" pump. You'll need the pump and brackets and P/S pressure and return hoses.
You will also need (if 351W is not equipped), the 'accessory' outer crankshaft pulley. Could be single/double/triple sheave (pulley groove), you'll have to figure out which one.
Outer 'accessory' pulley(s) bolt to harmonic balancer. Used with P/S and/or A/C and/or dual belt alternator.
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Get the gearbox, P/S pump and etc from the trucks, then get the 351W P/S pump mounting brackets from a 1969/77 car. 1978 and later is not the same, pump has a plastic reservoir.
Steel reservoir P/S pump is essentially the same 1965/1977, doesn't matter if car or truck, or if the engine is a 302/351C/351M/351W/360/390/400/429/460 or whatever. Only the mounting brackets are different.
1975/91 Econoline 351W uses the Saginaw "canned ham" pump. You'll need the pump and brackets and P/S pressure and return hoses.
You will also need (if 351W is not equipped), the 'accessory' outer crankshaft pulley. Could be single/double/triple sheave (pulley groove), you'll have to figure out which one.
Outer 'accessory' pulley(s) bolt to harmonic balancer. Used with P/S and/or A/C and/or dual belt alternator.
Steel reservoir P/S pump is essentially the same 1965/1977, doesn't matter if car or truck, or if the engine is a 302/351C/351M/351W/360/390/400/429/460 or whatever. Only the mounting brackets are different.
1975/91 Econoline 351W uses the Saginaw "canned ham" pump. You'll need the pump and brackets and P/S pressure and return hoses.
You will also need (if 351W is not equipped), the 'accessory' outer crankshaft pulley. Could be single/double/triple sheave (pulley groove), you'll have to figure out which one.
Outer 'accessory' pulley(s) bolt to harmonic balancer. Used with P/S and/or A/C and/or dual belt alternator.
So I would need to do some custom work to make the 65/66 auto column work?