hello guys/girls

i've a 1988 ford bronco with the 302 engine to which i did a swap to MAS and had to change to a 92' computer so that it could work with the MAS sensor.

I'm looking for a tune-up; I used to have a Diablo performance chip on the original computer but i believe that company is long gone.

any suggestions, links, websites you guys could direct me to?

thanks =)

PS: can see my babe in cardomain.com under "Broncoboogieman"

 

I'd suggest the Quarterhorse RT over the Tweecer any day. they only make the hardware, check out moates.net. There are a few options for software, some free and some not. Check out tuner pro and eec analyzer / binary editor.

 

Could you suggest links?....saw Jet Power Performance on Summitracing...any ideas on that one?.....

Sorry if you had links, watching the forum from my cell, links dont show from the mobile version of the site

 

Here's my humble opinion on Jet and further IMHo on the industry as a whole......

March 2004
JET ECU Testing Results - Club RSX Message Board
JET ECU Testing Results
________________________________________
After a lot of debate between the members here, I finally have the results on if JET has or has not modified the ECU. To make it perfectly clear, I am only posting these results for wackypack (the owner of the ECU) and Hondata (who wanted the test done) as an unbiased 3rd party that wants to know if it does anything or not.

What I did was use an OBDII scan tool to bring up the calibration id and the CVN on the JET ECU. I did this test twice several hours apart to verify that information doesn't change. The stock ECU was plugged in during that time period. I have attached the pictures to show the ECU plugged in and the scan tool reading the ECU. I have also attached the calibration id table for all stock Acura RSX base model ECU's. If you take a look at the zip file you will see the document inside of there. That document was lasted edited on February 23rd, which is before I got the ECU yesterday. The reason this is important is because if you look at the calibration id table and the CVN number they match. This means that the ECU has not been modified in any way. Anytime you make a change to the ECU, that CVN number will change. I am going to test this more when I get back from the Hondata seminar this weekend but after all of my research, this does seem to be the case each and every time.

I will let you guys debate this for now. I will do my best to answer questions but I am on a plane in a few hours and will only have email access and not internet access.

Here is some info for you guys to chew on as well:

http://www.vetronix.com/diagnostics/...al_obd_ii.html
obdiicsu.com - obd obdii obd II obd2 on board diagnostic autotap Resources and Information. This website is for sale! - Page 6
http://www.ncvecs.colostate.edu/cac....es/McCarthyOBD - Page 9

"The Information mode displays identification information provided by the
vehicle's OBD n ECU. Information can include VIN, Calibration ID used for
software identification within the ECU, and Calibration Verification Number
used to determine whether emission-related calibrations have been altered."

Now for the rest of the industry........

With regards to “Chips” and “Tuners”, years ago it was the best that most could do to enhance the ignition timing, fuel curve, transmission shift points, etc. It was (and still is) very important that a person verifies that the “Tuner” is ASE certified in both ECM and Transmission programming and IMHO be have current certification by the OEM whose vehicle you want to modify. There are plenty of persons who advertise their programs to be the best and even offer custom tunes, but in all reality, very few actually have credentials in these areas- but that’s not to say that some of these “geniuses” haven’t really caused damage to a few vehicles- just jump over to flatratetech.com and read just some of the comments from the MSE techs!. Perhaps what is equally important is the parameters that can be adjusted are set by the OEM vehicle software…so there is really no “magic” in what they are doing anyway.
If you look at the dyno charts from many of these supposed HP/TQ increases, they are typically around 5%-7% at peak rpm ranges…….guess what, 5% is a standard deviation even amongst mfg dynos and if you go to this link http://www.fordracingparts.com/downl...ceTechTips.pdf the engineers at Ford racing have a article on just exactly how these “tuners” play games with the hp/tq ratings, how calibration can cause misleading dyno results, & some of the “tricks” that are used to gain supposed power increases.

IMHO, if you live near any major city there are excellent tuning specialists with dynos who for the same price (if not less) will tune your vehicle taking into consideration your specific needs including environmental conditions, for your specific vehicle. IMHO, the best bang for the buck!

If you are comfortable and understand how to tune a vehicle, you can do this yourself. There are several software programs available as you have found, that “Speak Common English” that will allow you to tune your vehicles ECM. Blue oval chips is one of the few company's that has been around for decades, aare/were/Ford MSE's and have an excellent reputation specifically for the older vehicles.

 

thanks for the overview bro...def will have your opinion in mind. any ideas on what i was suggested by another forum member (moats.net)?

 

The QH and tweecer aren't on summit racing. Do a Google search and you'll find them. Don't use the tweecer, IMO

 

Yes, those will allow you to tune but because the software changes it would be best if someone who currently uses this and other software weighs in.........

 

I have used the tweecer and now use the QH. RT with Tuner Pro. My opinions so far are based on this experience and the issues I have gone through