Hey Guys a question for the collectors... Having a rifle, 14 years old but new in the box is pretty neat, but really what good is it to sit in the box? Oil on occasion but never shoot it??? It's a Sako Deluxe 223.
Does light shooting really affect the value??

 

I've been told that any shooting drops the value.

Some discussion here:

Sako S491 deluxe .223 - Page 2

It's either NIB or not, and I think that the effect varies by type.

A commemorative will suffer a lot more than a run-of-the-mill gun methinks.

 

NIB is just that!
Any rounds put through it will result in a drop in value.

Keep it pristine.

 

From what I've been told the bolt has never been in the gun either and I haven't been able to find another dressed out the same way as this one (floor plate engraving etc). I guess tucked away in the safe it will stay.
Thanks!

 

IMNSHO, several things are going to affect value.

1. How many of this particular rifle were built???
2. How desirable is this rifle???? (See Item #1.)
3. Even though this rifle has never been fired, it is NOT New In Box (NIB). Since it's left the store, it is now Like New In Box (LNIB).
4. What is someone willing to pay for this rifle, IF you sold it???
5. Why would you want to sell it????
6. I guarantee that this rifle has been fired. (It had to be 'proof' tested at the factory. It was fired at least three [3] times.)



I own several rifles and handguns that haven't been fired by me. They were fired by the factory.

Case in point. I bought (at a fundraiser event for Friends of the NRA) a S&W mdl 60 "Ladysmith", that was/is a limited edition revolver. It is engraved w/ NRA logo, and has it's Limited Edition Serial Number engraved in it. (There were only 300 produced. My serial number is less than #200.)
I bought it for less than $300.00, at auction. I've never fired it. It was fired at the factory. Other than that testing, the cylinder has never been rotated by the trigger. One gunshop offered me in excess of $1,500.00 for it. (It's not for sale!)

 

[QUOTE=00BlueOvalRanger;13274260]IMNSHO, several things are going to affect value.

1. How many of this particular rifle were built???
2. How desirable is this rifle???? (See Item #1.)
3. Even though this rifle has never been fired, it is NOT New In Box (NIB). Since it's left the store, it is now Like New In Box (LNIB).
4. What is someone willing to pay for this rifle, IF you sold it???
5. Why would you want to sell it????
6. I guarantee that this rifle has been fired. (It had to be 'proof' tested at the factory. It was fired at least three [3] times.)


1- In this configuration this is the only one I've come across, I hear getting answers from Finland on specifics can be difficult. From what I understand it was over a year waiting for the special order.
2- As any firearm it depends on the buyer, some people skip a heart beat at the sight or mention of a AK-47. Honestly I don't see the hype.
3,6- Getting a little nitpicky aren't we? Of course it was fired at the factory, and has been sold from the store to the original owner to me. I don't believe I've seen many listings for (LNIB) for (unfired by anyone but the factory and still in factory packaging.....) "Oh, I like your new car. It's not a new car it's like new since the dealer had to buy it from ford to sell to me..."
4,5- IF I were to sell it atleast market value depends on where and when selling.... Which brings up the point of I DON'T want or have any plans of selling it. The question in the post was does it really affect the value to shoot the rifle....
"If I were to buy a new truck today and not drive it for 50 years vs light driving with proper maintence"

 

Hey!!! You asked!!!! I gave you my semi-educated opinion of the facts.

Case in point - Back in the early 1900s (I forget the date) Georg Luger provided the U.S. Gov't. with some P-08 Luger pistols for evaluation.
(I don't remember the entire history of this evaluation, or even the caliber. There were some .45 acp Luger pistols produced, but, I THINK the pistols that were evaluated were in 9mm Parabellum. I honestly don't recall.)

One pistol was fired until the government literally threw it into the trash heap.
One pistol was fired a few times, and I don't remember the disposition of it. The pistol 'disappeared'.
One pistol remained UN-FIRED. It re-appeared and sold at auction for $2 MILLION dollars.
For a cable TV show, the owner of that pistol allowed Mr. Gary James (noted historian, gunsmith and author) to shoot this pistol.
As soon as the firing pin hit the primer of cartridge #1, the value of the pistol dropped by 1 MILLION dollars.

This is the exception rather than the rule, though.


What you do with your Sako......... is your decision. (I'm not even a Sako 'fan'.)
But yes, shooting it WILL diminish it's value.

You asked the question. I tried my best to give you an honest, semi-educated opinion.
No, your rifle is NOT "New In Box". It is "Like New In Box", or could even be considered "Second-Hand" since you aren't the original owner. Ask any collector/expert.

That is the bottom line and my last response.



Have a nice life.

 

Keith I'm sorry if I got your panties in a bunch. Thank you for your final answer.
Future thought though... a simple question only requires a simple answer:

"Does light shooting really affect the value??"


"What you do with your Sako......... is your decision. (I'm not even a Sako 'fan'.)
But yes, shooting it WILL diminish it's value."

Over expansion on answers with the flaunting of facts that aren't directly connected or just plain BS only shows arrogance or lack of anything better to do!

 

"New in box" definition of online retailers - THR

 

I know I have an "Old In Box" .38 S&W......

 

Even more arrogant not to mention disrespectful, ungrateful and down right rude is bashing someone publicly merely TRYING to answer the original question which YOU yourself posted! As for lack of anything better to do instead of trying to be helpful he could have left this post to twist in the wind and not add his thoughts. Someone taking their time attempting to be helpful hardly signals nothing better to do.

Look at his number of posts and reputation points gained then compare those to your own---shows a lot to my eye although Your Mileage May Vary!

Some people's kids huh?

 

This really isn't worth a reply but it's obvious who holds each others hands
When I first read the post to me it came off Cocky, maybe I missed a few words when reading, thus the apology. As far as rep points and posts IMHO that doesn't mean much as you can get rep'd for anything from helpful input to the good morning how are you today! And the number of posts, step into my shoes-work my jobs-and see how much "free time" their is to social network.....
Yes some peoples kids, it shows who should be ashamed to look in the mirror each morning...

 

It would seem you've missed more than a few words dude!

Excuses after the fact hold no water and yet it all could have been avoided simply taking a moment, re-reading the questionable to you post and trying to determine if its a matter of misconception.

While the reps might be meaningless to you they're helpful mostly to see who makes attempts to contribute to these forums, a gauge of whose NOT prone to go off too quickly without good reason.

IMHO ya understand!

 

Here is some new in box rifles.
Anyone want to share a purchase?

Mosin Nagant Rifle By The Crate