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Old Jun 18, 2013 | 12:28 PM
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Recently bought a 2011 f-350 6.7 with 56,000 miles and my neighbor just purchased a 2013 F-350 6.7. He is getting around 18 MPG while I am only seeing about 13.5 MPG unloaded. Were there any changes made between these years that would give the 2013 better fuel economy than the 2011? Obviously driving conditions play a huge factor in fuel economy but I drive like a damn grandpa most of the time.
 
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Old Jun 18, 2013 | 12:37 PM
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ask around in the 6.7 forum, or here

but reset the PCM and TCM. when you buy a used Ford, you get all of the previous owners driving habits saved by the PCM/TCM. They gradually phase out the old with the new driving information as you drive...but it's not an overnight process.

I'd do that first, then do the simple stuff like oil change, air filter and whatnot

remember also, peoples driving habits. I can take a vehicle and easily get 2-3 MPG better than someone else with the same vehicle. It's all about how you drive. You neighbor might drive like an old fogey and use CC everywhere and stay at 55 mph. just too many variables
 
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Old Jun 18, 2013 | 01:14 PM
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Moved to the 6.7L Power Stroke Diesel forum.
 
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Old Jun 18, 2013 | 03:00 PM
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Gear ratios, tire size, tire type and 2wd vs 4wd comes to mind. Guys with the 3.31 gears seem to do a little better than the 3.55 equipped trucks. Even 2 trucks equipped with 3.55s see a difference between 18" & 20" tires. One thing that these trucks are not very tolerant of mpg wise is idling. Idle time to warm up the truck, run the AC or have a 15 minute conversation with the neighbor are the death of fuel mileage in these things. Stop and go driving also makes it very difficult to achieve good economy.

At 56,000 miles without knowing the maintenance history of the truck, I would definitely replace the fuel and air filters. This may help you a little bit, but I don't see you gaining more than 1 or 2 mpg at best.
 
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Old Jun 18, 2013 | 08:03 PM
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Originally Posted by tylerfin
Recently bought a 2011 f-350 6.7 with 56,000 miles and my neighbor just purchased a 2013 F-350 6.7. He is getting around 18 MPG while I am only seeing about 13.5 MPG unloaded. Were there any changes made between these years that would give the 2013 better fuel economy than the 2011? Obviously driving conditions play a huge factor in fuel economy but I drive like a damn grandpa most of the time.
I just picked up my new 2013 F350 CC 4x4 20" tires last week from the local dealer. First tank of diesel in 'city only' unloaded driving (driving like a grandmother with all shifts under 2k rpm's) and got 13.6 per gallon (not hand calculated). I picked up some PM22A at the dealer this morning and will add tomorrow when I fill up for the first time. Dealer (sales rep and parts guys) thought I was strange for adding the diesel additive in the new 6.7, but said it wouldn't hurt it...
I'll try and get some highway miles on it this weekend to see how the mileage increases....
 
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Old Jun 18, 2013 | 08:14 PM
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I have a 2012 DRW 4X4 with 3.73 gears, and 5600 miles. I just made a trip of about 340 miles driving 70 most of the way, except for about 20 miles in a funeral procession, and I hand figured 16.0 mpg for the trip. Gears do make a difference.
 
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Old Jun 18, 2013 | 08:39 PM
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you did reset the mpg gauge since you bought the truck right?
 
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Old Jun 18, 2013 | 08:53 PM
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Is he hand calculating numbers? I find mpg stories are a lot like fish stories. Generally exaggerated a fair bit.
 
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Old Jun 18, 2013 | 10:45 PM
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I get 12.9-15.1 (fairly empty load). Some of us are either unlucky or some of us are liars who never hand calc any of their tanks.
 
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Old Jun 19, 2013 | 01:13 AM
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Is he hand calculating numbers? I find mpg stories are a lot like fish stories. Generally exaggerated a fair bit.
Those numbers don't sound unreasonable.
 
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Old Jun 19, 2013 | 06:44 AM
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My '12 F250 is just over a year old. I use it for towing my car trailer, around town for tasks (a bed full of wood flooring), carrying more people comfortably, or long haul drives in short time (empty).

I track all the mileage. (numbers below all hand calculated)

Best I've seen, one tank, 17.8mpg, 400 miles round trip to dallas and back in the same day.
towing my 7,000lb flat front closed trailer, 11.8-12.3
normal 16.5

average over 12,000 miles, 15.42
my mileage gauge is is off by about .4-.6 , last tank was actual 16.25, LOM was 16.7
 
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Old Jun 19, 2013 | 12:32 PM
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my mileage gauge is is off by about .4-.6 , last tank was actual 16.25, LOM was 16.7
Have you checked the accuracy of your odometer? When my tires were nearly new, I found the odometer to read 3% low. When checked by both driving a known measured distance of 10 miles and using GPS, I confirmed that I was actually traveling 3% further than my odometer was registering. Now that the tires are worn out I have not checked it, but the 3% should have grown slightly as the tire diameter has lessened.

At the same time with the tank topped off every time, the fuel pump claims to have pumped 2.5% to 3% more fuel into the tank than the fuel economy meter says that I have burned. Basically when accounting for the odometer error and "hand calculating" based on the pump gallons, I come up within less than 0.25 mpg different than the "LOM". The difference that you stated above comes in at about 2.7% oddly enough.

I will be getting new tires of a slightly different size next week and will recheck my odometer at that time, but since the new tires are only 0.5" or 1.1% larger, I don't expect to see any earth shattering changes.
 
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Originally Posted by 720Deere
Have you checked the accuracy of your odometer? When my tires were nearly new, I found the odometer to read 3% low. When checked by both driving a known measured distance of 10 miles and using GPS, I confirmed that I was actually traveling 3% further than my odometer was registering. Now that the tires are worn out I have not checked it, but the 3% should have grown slightly as the tire diameter has lessened.

At the same time with the tank topped off every time, the fuel pump claims to have pumped 2.5% to 3% more fuel into the tank than the fuel economy meter says that I have burned. Basically when accounting for the odometer error and "hand calculating" based on the pump gallons, I come up within less than 0.25 mpg different than the "LOM". The difference that you stated above comes in at about 2.7% oddly enough.

I will be getting new tires of a slightly different size next week and will recheck my odometer at that time, but since the new tires are only 0.5" or 1.1% larger, I don't expect to see any earth shattering changes.
No, haven't had odometer checked. I have had significant variances (as high as 1.1 mpg, while towing, and as low as .1), so I just chalk it up to difference in calculation cycles.

1/2 mpg is close enough for me to estimate.
Monday I drove til there was 35 MTE, and put 21.9 gals into the SB 25gal tank.

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Old Jun 19, 2013 | 01:59 PM
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rcjohn44, i noticed in your avitar you have a 5er in the background. What kind of mpg's are you getting? I have the same towing rig as you: 2011 f350 drw lwb fx4. I'm @ about 22k lbs on the scale so i'm guessing 12.5k trailer wait. The few times we've used the 5er it has ben on short 20 mile trips to the local state park. Just curious on mpg's on longer trips this fall.

But to the op i average about 14 mpg calculating by hand with my drw. With an oil change every 5k and fuel and air filter @ 15k. I average about 1500 miles a month and 80% of that is highway at 70-75 mph. the other 20% is in town driving with lots of stops and starts and hardly get above 35 mph.
 
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Old Jun 19, 2013 | 09:09 PM
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My mpg has been as low as 7.5mpg and as high as 23mpg.
It really depends on what you are doing.

65 mph on a 300 mile long flat hiway will get you in the 20's
80 mph on a 300 mile long hiway drive will get you 18's
city driving will get you 13-15 mpg
Towing a large 5ver in a head wind will get you 7.5mpg.
Towing same trailer with out the headwind will get you 10.5 mpg

My avg for 85,000 miles is below in my signature. Thats' towing, hiway everything combined for the life of my truck
 
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