Carburetor question
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Laughing Gas
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Carburetor question
I posted this in the topic specific forum, but no replies, so...
I want to get a carb for my '85 460 to rebuild at my leisure (and in case I screw it up). Is there a site somewhere that has a list of what mine might have been used on other than my F-250?
The numbers on mine are:
E6HE-9510-AC
LIST-50305-2
1336
Just in case anyone happens to know off-hand.
I want to get a carb for my '85 460 to rebuild at my leisure (and in case I screw it up). Is there a site somewhere that has a list of what mine might have been used on other than my F-250?
The numbers on mine are:
E6HE-9510-AC
LIST-50305-2
1336
Just in case anyone happens to know off-hand.
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Ford calibrated their carbs pretty close for emissions, so there is not going to be much of a interchange with them. Even some of the other 460 carbs would fit but technically may not have the same number because of some minor change.
Sometimes you can go to Autozone or some other website that sells reman carbs, and they will have one part number for their reman carb, and then they will have a list of OEM numbers that it can be used for. This is probablyas close as you will get. If you get the other numbers, then you might be able to use them to find the application.
Sometimes you can go to Autozone or some other website that sells reman carbs, and they will have one part number for their reman carb, and then they will have a list of OEM numbers that it can be used for. This is probablyas close as you will get. If you get the other numbers, then you might be able to use them to find the application.
pedant
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The Holley spec sheet lists a R50305-2A
http://www.holley.com/data/Products/...l/199R9766.pdf
The only thing that tells me is that there is no choke or pump adjustment.
Tom, I think you would be fine with any 4180 that came from a 460 truck.
One from a 5.0 H.O. 'notch Mustang, probably not.
http://www.holley.com/data/Products/...l/199R9766.pdf
The only thing that tells me is that there is no choke or pump adjustment.
Tom, I think you would be fine with any 4180 that came from a 460 truck.
One from a 5.0 H.O. 'notch Mustang, probably not.
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Laughing Gas
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So where to get the kit?
Yeah, I was thinking I'd just look for 460 from an '85 (give or take a year) F or E series truck.
On the other hand, I may not have that luxury as I've been smelling fuel vapors recently and noticed leakage on the carb when I went to get the numbers again. It looks like gaskets are leaking.
So that hastens my next question, where's the best place (value for money) to get the kit. Seems a wide variation in price.
carbkitsource.com - $90 + $21 for a float
CARBS UNLIMITED INC. - $49 + $9 for a float
Advance Auto - $29-$49 but aren't very specific.
On the other hand, I may not have that luxury as I've been smelling fuel vapors recently and noticed leakage on the carb when I went to get the numbers again. It looks like gaskets are leaking.
So that hastens my next question, where's the best place (value for money) to get the kit. Seems a wide variation in price.
carbkitsource.com - $90 + $21 for a float
CARBS UNLIMITED INC. - $49 + $9 for a float
Advance Auto - $29-$49 but aren't very specific.
pedant
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I bought my 3-1346 kit and 116-4 brass floats from Amazon.
But it seems that Amazon is out of stock at $47+ free delivery.
$9.95 each with free shipping on a $25 order and no tax.
But it seems that Amazon is out of stock at $47+ free delivery.
$9.95 each with free shipping on a $25 order and no tax.
pedant
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After my experience with aftermarket parts and kits like Sorenson, there is no way I would use anything but genuine Holley parts.
Even a Motorcraft kit is likely to be 20 years old and dried out at this point.
Those guys at Carbkits must be smoking crack.
Even a Motorcraft kit is likely to be 20 years old and dried out at this point.
Those guys at Carbkits must be smoking crack.
pedant
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You can order direct from Holley;
Holley Performance Products Side Hung Float 116-4
Holley Performance Products Carburetor Rebuild Kit 3-1346
Holley Performance Products Side Hung Float 116-4
Holley Performance Products Carburetor Rebuild Kit 3-1346
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Laughing Gas
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I would definitely get either a Holley kit or a Motorcraft kit if you can find one. Both
are much better quality than the vast majority of aftermarket carb kits.
are much better quality than the vast majority of aftermarket carb kits.
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Laughing Gas
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Got my genuine Holley renew kit #3-1346 from Summit Racing. I think it was $49.95 + $10.00 for shipping (but if your order is big enough I think the shipping is free).
You'll also need an intake manifold to EGR plate gasket, an EGR gasket, two floats (one for the primary and the other for the secondary), carb cleaner and brushes, and a source of compressed air for blowing out all the little passages.
You'll also need a fuel inlet filter. Don't know how your fuel inlet is set up, but when I did mine I changed the fuel inlet filter over to one that connects to a rubber fuel line (originally it connected to a metal fitting but I was having leaks).
Good luck with it.
You'll also need an intake manifold to EGR plate gasket, an EGR gasket, two floats (one for the primary and the other for the secondary), carb cleaner and brushes, and a source of compressed air for blowing out all the little passages.
You'll also need a fuel inlet filter. Don't know how your fuel inlet is set up, but when I did mine I changed the fuel inlet filter over to one that connects to a rubber fuel line (originally it connected to a metal fitting but I was having leaks).
Good luck with it.
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I posted this in the topic specific forum, but no replies, so...
I want to get a carb for my '85 460 to rebuild at my leisure (and in case I screw it up). Is there a site somewhere that has a list of what mine might have been used on other than my F-250?
The numbers on mine are:
E6HE-9510-AC
LIST-50305-2
1336
Just in case anyone happens to know off-hand.
I want to get a carb for my '85 460 to rebuild at my leisure (and in case I screw it up). Is there a site somewhere that has a list of what mine might have been used on other than my F-250?
The numbers on mine are:
E6HE-9510-AC
LIST-50305-2
1336
Just in case anyone happens to know off-hand.
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Laughing Gas
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You can order direct from Holley;
Holley Performance Products Side Hung Float*116-4
Holley Performance Products Carburetor Rebuild Kit*3-1346
Holley Performance Products Side Hung Float*116-4
Holley Performance Products Carburetor Rebuild Kit*3-1346
pedant
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Rovernut,
That was for my 4180.
I have a 0-802457s now.
I'm not sure what kit fits it, but I imagine it is a generic 4160 kit.
I don't know what Holley was telling you, but I know those parts fit my old carb.
That was for my 4180.
I have a 0-802457s now.
I'm not sure what kit fits it, but I imagine it is a generic 4160 kit.
I don't know what Holley was telling you, but I know those parts fit my old carb.
Laughing Gas
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I'm not sure about Holley kit 37-1536 vs 3-1346. Both would have the correct gaskets but the different would would most likely be the power valves. Both would be the 2 stage types but one might be for the Mustang and the other for a F150 engine. The more expensive kit, 37-1536, might also contain the floats. I don't know that for sure but you could ask Holley about it. I know the Motorcraft kits most always contain the floats. They are hard to find now but the Numbers are CT-1443-D, which is the best one, and also CT-1541-B and CT-1376-F,which is for a big truck,
but has the correct gaskets and other parts and also some parts not needed for your
application. The biggest different between all the kits is the powervalve.
On my truck, which is a modified 351W with an Edelbrock performer intake and a
Ford Motorsport performance cam and headers, the 4180 works best with a one
size bigger primary jets and a single stage 6.5 Holley power valve.
but has the correct gaskets and other parts and also some parts not needed for your
application. The biggest different between all the kits is the powervalve.
On my truck, which is a modified 351W with an Edelbrock performer intake and a
Ford Motorsport performance cam and headers, the 4180 works best with a one
size bigger primary jets and a single stage 6.5 Holley power valve.
pedant
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An addendum to the 3-1346 kit instructions indicates that Holley is no longer producing 2-stage powervalves.
They have a chart offering best choice single stage valves depending on the number shown on the 2-stage you now have.
http://www.holley.com/data/Products/.../199R10645.pdf
They have a chart offering best choice single stage valves depending on the number shown on the 2-stage you now have.
http://www.holley.com/data/Products/.../199R10645.pdf