...Not what I wanted to hear, wonder what that will cost?
Escape shift problem
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5th Wheeling
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Escape shift problem
2001 Escape V6 auto 2wd.
Has been driving fine and out of the blue it started not going into 3rd.
The Od light started flashing and I hooked my OBD2 reader to it.
No codes appear on reader. But the trans won't shift up to 3rd, the rpms just race but 1st and 2nd shift fine also r works.
Hoping for a easy fix and not a rebuild, Any help would be great.
Thanks
Has been driving fine and out of the blue it started not going into 3rd.
The Od light started flashing and I hooked my OBD2 reader to it.
No codes appear on reader. But the trans won't shift up to 3rd, the rpms just race but 1st and 2nd shift fine also r works.
Hoping for a easy fix and not a rebuild, Any help would be great.
Thanks
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The blinking light indicating transmission problems will NOT hang around once the vehicle has been turned off. There is no 'memory' in the control, so it forgets it had a problem.
The direct clutch is not applying, so you over-rev. It applies in 3rd and OD. Checking the service manual, I believer it is controlled by a solenoid. The line pressure is also controlled electronically.
You may have a bad solenoid, or even loose connections. It may not be 'busted' as much as sho indicated, and may cost a lot less than stated.
Most times when a transmission is in the process of dying, you'll get late shifts, engine rpm 'flare' when it tries to upshift, slow engagement, and a big pile of worry that you might not make it home...
If you didn't have any of those symptoms, I'd take it to a reliable independent when the light is flashing and let them read the code. I just looked at the 2005 model year as I don't go that far back, but the same transmission, with improvements, has been used since introduction.
tom
The direct clutch is not applying, so you over-rev. It applies in 3rd and OD. Checking the service manual, I believer it is controlled by a solenoid. The line pressure is also controlled electronically.
You may have a bad solenoid, or even loose connections. It may not be 'busted' as much as sho indicated, and may cost a lot less than stated.
Most times when a transmission is in the process of dying, you'll get late shifts, engine rpm 'flare' when it tries to upshift, slow engagement, and a big pile of worry that you might not make it home...
If you didn't have any of those symptoms, I'd take it to a reliable independent when the light is flashing and let them read the code. I just looked at the 2005 model year as I don't go that far back, but the same transmission, with improvements, has been used since introduction.
tom
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5th Wheeling
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Had code reader hooked up while test driving it, No codes present.
Where is this sol located? inside or outside of the trans.
Sadley sitting on the fence about this, The car is in good shape but dropping 3k for a trans is about what the Kbb says its worth.
Where is this sol located? inside or outside of the trans.
Sadley sitting on the fence about this, The car is in good shape but dropping 3k for a trans is about what the Kbb says its worth.
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The shift solenoids are located inside the front 'pan' I believe. They are attached to the valve body as they have to direct fluid flow. I think transmission shops can test the operation of the solenoids, and if you have access to a wiring diagram, you can test them yourself for shorts or opens. I read somewhere that ChryCo transmissions could have their solenoids operated by a test box of sorts, so suspect the FoMoCo Rotunda branch would have similar test equipment.
Generally as noted, you have a bit of warning before things totally quit, so I would be looking at something that can break instantly with no fore-warning symptoms. Solenoids fit that bill.
tom
Generally as noted, you have a bit of warning before things totally quit, so I would be looking at something that can break instantly with no fore-warning symptoms. Solenoids fit that bill.
tom
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Update
Well it was worst case problem with trans.
Now 2750.00 later it has newly rebuilt trans and new convertor.
But having 194000 hard miles on it with no troubles or fluid changes,
I guess it was time.
Now 2750.00 later it has newly rebuilt trans and new convertor.
But having 194000 hard miles on it with no troubles or fluid changes,
I guess it was time.
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Yeah, not bad for a CD4E.
My 07 Mariner's tranny busted a couple of weeks after we bought it (O/D band broke), but, luckily it was just barely still in warranty. It's up to 105K miles now with no further tranny problems.
My 98 Conturd went through a valve body and torque converter in '06 at 130K miles. It's now at 235K miles and still running well enough to use as my DD.
AAA membership and a cell phone....
My 07 Mariner's tranny busted a couple of weeks after we bought it (O/D band broke), but, luckily it was just barely still in warranty. It's up to 105K miles now with no further tranny problems.
My 98 Conturd went through a valve body and torque converter in '06 at 130K miles. It's now at 235K miles and still running well enough to use as my DD.
AAA membership and a cell phone....
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There is no evidence that such is the case.
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As a Ford Service Manager, and an Auto Service/Repair Business Owner, who had a close relationship with Certified Transmission- there's no more true fact than that of never changing AT fluid you are killing your transmission- death by neglect- same in all things- NO
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