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Old Jun 3, 2013 | 03:47 PM
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Fuel pump question

I just got done replacing the front tank and internal fuel pump. It all seems to work fine except yesterday I had to crank it over for a long time before it fired. I checked the filter and there was not alot of fuel in it when I was trying to start it. When its running the amount of fuel coming into the filter is really no more than a dribble. I went out this morning and checked the filter and it was full, kinda weird. This is all on my new tank setup by the way. I have a Mallory 4070 electric pump just sitting around, is this something I would want to put inline to help the pumps or just a waste of time. Thanks for any tips.
 
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Old Jun 3, 2013 | 08:34 PM
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Have you checked to see that the pump is getting voltage while cranking. I'm not an expert on this, but I believe there's a oil pressure switch that is intended to kill power to the pump if the engine isn't running. But, there's a bypass for that while cranking. So, if the bypass isn't working you wouldn't have power while cranking and it would be hard to start.

As for adding a pump, I wouldn't do that until I knew I had a problem it would fix.
 
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Old Jun 4, 2013 | 08:18 AM
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Ill try and bypass the switch and see if it primes the fuel line, thats probably the problem. Is there any advantage to having an inline pump with the in tank pumps?
 
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No, sorry. But there was a discussion about that recently so you could find it via searching.
 
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I think Franklin2 posted the 1985 fuel pump circuits in here before. I have the 86 circuits on my website, but 85 is different, I think there is an extra relay. The small blue fusible link at the starter solenoid/relay is the cranking bypass for the system, it directly powers the fuel pump, change over valve wiring. Jumper it to 12V battery power, then test the system.

FWIW, the change over valve is only powered through the pump feed wiring, and has a history of problems. Where did you find a pump? several people recently have said they couldn't find a good source.

BTW, it is an extremely low pressure pump, 2-3psi I seem to remember, someone asked about it recently.
 
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Old Jun 4, 2013 | 12:02 PM
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Originally Posted by voodoolord
Ill try and bypass the switch and see if it primes the fuel line, thats probably the problem.
Don't leave it bypassed. It's not safe. If you were to be in an accident, the pump could keep pumping fuel and cause a fire.


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Is there any advantage to having an inline pump with the in tank pumps?
It could help reduce risk of vapor lock in certain climates. If you do this, you'll probably want to put in a fuel pressure regulator too because having the pump inline may increase pressure past where you need it.
 
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No, sorry. But there was a discussion about that recently so you could find it via searching.
I couldnt find it after searching earlier, maybe I used the wrong terms or it was something that didnt apply?

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I think Franklin2 posted the 1985 fuel pump circuits in here before. I have the 86 circuits on my website, but 85 is different, I think there is an extra relay. The small blue fusible link at the starter solenoid/relay is the cranking bypass for the system, it directly powers the fuel pump, change over valve wiring. Jumper it to 12V battery power, then test the system.

FWIW, the change over valve is only powered through the pump feed wiring, and has a history of problems. Where did you find a pump? several people recently have said they couldn't find a good source.
The pump Is a Mallory 4070 and was given to me by a friend, I dont know if this pump is the one your thinking of. I took the oil pressure switch off, jumped it and got nothing. The filter again was full this morning so no issues starting it but I could never hear the pump run when I turn the key to run or get it to work when I jumped the switch. Thanks for the info also Big Block. By the way I jumped the "I" / blue wire on the coil and it set the pump on.
 
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