86 model A/C question
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86 model A/C question
Alright fellas, just got done with air conditioning in school, talkin about r12 and all that good stuff, didn't even cross my mind to think about my truck, so these old beastys have r12? i have discovered that my truck has "dealer installed" air conditioning, i cannot seem to find a filter dryer, there are NO high side low side fittings.
And she doesn't blow real cold, at all.
R12 is a pain in the *** cause you gotta have someone "certified" to do it and its expensve, how much is an r134 conversion kit and has anyone had good experiences with any?
Anyone got info on my trucks set up? the whole dealer installed mumbo jumbo
And she doesn't blow real cold, at all.
R12 is a pain in the *** cause you gotta have someone "certified" to do it and its expensve, how much is an r134 conversion kit and has anyone had good experiences with any?
Anyone got info on my trucks set up? the whole dealer installed mumbo jumbo
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I've used the "id" (inter-dynamics?) brand kits for my 86 F350 and for my 92 Toyota. They work, but BE CAREFUL. The quality is total crap. I had one canister pop and spray out of the regulator head and would have frozen my skin if I hadn't been wearing gloves. The next time/season I went to use the kit, the regulator gage exploded and hit me in the face... Luckily I was leery from the first time and had on gloves and safety goggles. They are cheap and they work, but be ready for a little excitement! 
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My van has a 12-to-134a conversion kit and it didn't seem like it was that big of a pain. 134 won't be as cool as 12, but it's cooler than nothing at all. Replace the dryer, orifice tube, and do a flush, cuz i'm sure it'll be full of grime and moisture if it has been exposed to the atmosphere for years.
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all my R-12 vehicles still have R-12 in them, and i WILL NOT be converting them.
the system in not designed for R-134A and will not work as good.
and if you are going to be working in the AC field, you might as well get your 609 certification, because you are eventually going to need it anyway.
R-12 is still readily available, and it is not that expensive.
the system in not designed for R-134A and will not work as good.
and if you are going to be working in the AC field, you might as well get your 609 certification, because you are eventually going to need it anyway.
R-12 is still readily available, and it is not that expensive.
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Thanks for all the responses guys!
@tjc do your vehicles have high and low side ports? I mean i really can't seem to find any place to charge... i have a condenser obviously, i'll go get pics of everything i have and where it goes when i'm messing with her today.
@tjc do your vehicles have high and low side ports? I mean i really can't seem to find any place to charge... i have a condenser obviously, i'll go get pics of everything i have and where it goes when i'm messing with her today.
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I've used the "id" (inter-dynamics?) brand kits for my 86 F350 and for my 92 Toyota. They work, but BE CAREFUL. The quality is total crap. I had one canister pop and spray out of the regulator head and would have frozen my skin if I hadn't been wearing gloves. The next time/season I went to use the kit, the regulator gage exploded and hit me in the face... Luckily I was leery from the first time and had on gloves and safety goggles. They are cheap and they work, but be ready for a little excitement!
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All AC systems have charging ports, may be hidden or on the back side of compressor.
If you can find it they make an R12 replacement called Freeze 12, costs alittle more than R134 but alot less then R12 and is a legal replacement.
I have put this in many applications and it performs very well, better than R134a.
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All AC systems have charging ports, may be hidden or on the back side of compressor.
If you can find it they make an R12 replacement called Freeze 12, costs alittle more than R134 but alot less then R12 and is a legal replacement.
I have put this in many applications and it performs very well, better than R134a.
If you can find it they make an R12 replacement called Freeze 12, costs alittle more than R134 but alot less then R12 and is a legal replacement.
I have put this in many applications and it performs very well, better than R134a.
where would i find freeze 12? it isn't just one of those can style ones is it? i guess thats the only way to really charge it considering no one uses r12 charging machines anymore?
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i have factory AC in my trucks, not aftermarket .
the R-12 charge ports look more like screw on tire valves than the new R-134A clip on ports.
i want to say the low side is in back near the ac box, and the high side port is up front near the rad support. it has been a while since i messed with one of the old trucks ac systems.
the R-12 charge ports look more like screw on tire valves than the new R-134A clip on ports.
i want to say the low side is in back near the ac box, and the high side port is up front near the rad support. it has been a while since i messed with one of the old trucks ac systems.
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A friend of mine here in AZ did mine about 2 year's ago he said to do the conversion kit was a waste of money he just had me get some #46 oil from napa and r134 still blows nice and cold it's. 110 today.
