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Old Jun 6, 2013 | 11:20 PM
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Any moisture that enters while being assembled will be drawn off during the vac down process . just don't leave the system open for long . Seal it up , and have it vacuumed down .
x2, if you have it open try and do it when its not so humid out, like not in the middle of a rain storm, also for the Detroit diesel that leaks, its not leaking, its marking its territory!
 
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Old Jun 7, 2013 | 04:46 PM
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x2, if you have it open try and do it when its not so humid out, like not in the middle of a rain storm, also for the Detroit diesel that leaks, its not leaking, its marking its territory!
that'll be hard to do here in NC. It's looking like rain for the next 3-4 days. Hopefully it'll hold off for me tomorrow.
 
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Old Jun 7, 2013 | 05:23 PM
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Just be quick about it and you should be fine, also try to measure the amount of compressor oil in removed components and add fresh oil back to system in that amount or plus by an ounc or so, good luck, it should go well!
 
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Old Jun 7, 2013 | 07:12 PM
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Just be quick about it and you should be fine, also try to measure the amount of compressor oil in removed components and add fresh oil back to system in that amount or plus by an ounc or so, good luck, it should go well!
i'm glad you mentioned adding oil. I believe the recharge cans i used all had oil in them... that being said, i believe i've recharged it a total of 3 times in the last year.

I'm having a shop vacuum the system, check for leaks, and recharge. Should i let them know how many times i've recharged the system or when they put a vacuum will they pull most/all of the oil out. Is there such a thing as too much oil? I would think so, but am not sure.
 
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Old Jun 7, 2013 | 07:24 PM
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Yes you can have too much oil in the system, I am going to make an assumption tha the refrigerant oil was in 2 ounce doses per can of refrigerant, if that is the case, don't add oil, also no oil will be pulled out when evacuating system. It is really a guess how much oil is lost from a system from any given leak, but I tend to be conservative on how much oil to add, when you add oil and refrigerant, it's best to add separately and with out sealant, many shops do not want to recover refrigerants that have these sealers in them as they tend to contaminate and damage the machinery, hope it goes well.
 
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Old Jun 7, 2013 | 07:40 PM
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I already explained most of this in my previous post, you probably missed my post . When do you plan on replacing the parts?.
 
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Old Jun 7, 2013 | 08:34 PM
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I already explained most of this in my previous post, you probably missed my post . When do you plan on replacing the parts?.
i saw your post, guess i just forgot for a moment. That being said, is there a way to extract the oil from the system easily without having to tear everything apart?
 
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Old Jun 7, 2013 | 08:40 PM
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Originally Posted by j.grif
Yes you can have too much oil in the system, I am going to make an assumption tha the refrigerant oil was in 2 ounce doses per can of refrigerant, if that is the case, don't add oil, also no oil will be pulled out when evacuating system. It is really a guess how much oil is lost from a system from any given leak, but I tend to be conservative on how much oil to add, when you add oil and refrigerant, it's best to add separately and with out sealant, many shops do not want to recover refrigerants that have these sealers in them as they tend to contaminate and damage the machinery, hope it goes well.
Correct on all points . I ruined a set of Snap On gauges with sealer ! Expensive mistake ! Detroits always mark their spot ! LOL . A buddy of mine has an Eagle bus with 890k and a Detroit , Allison set up . Leaks like heck , runs like a greased lightning bolt . Hydrolics are the only set back .
 
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Old Jun 7, 2013 | 08:55 PM
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forgot to mention... i plan on swapping out the condenser tomorrow if i can find the time and then having it serviced early in the week.
 
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Old Jun 7, 2013 | 09:03 PM
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The only " easy " way to remove the oil is to flush the system . Not an easy process for the DIY'er
 
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When you do the service tell the shop you didn't flush the system and just replaced the parts, that should give them an idea if they should add oil or not. Service in this case means both adding oil and refrigerant.
 
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When you do the service tell the shop you didn't flush the system and just replaced the parts, that should give them an idea if they should add oil or not. Service in this case means both adding oil and refrigerant.
I'll be sure to let them know. thank you and everyone else for the advice.
 
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Old Jun 17, 2013 | 04:54 AM
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I was able to get the condenser replaced yesterday morning. It was a little more difficult than i had expected. What i thought was the top radiator support seemed to be the entire front end support,s o removing that was out of the question. With that said, they sure didn't' leave much room to slide the old one out, or the new one in.

Overall, everything went pretty smoothly. I managed not to break anything except those little push in christmas tree type holders. I'll have to get a few of those today. I'm kind of liking the look of the new condenser, it's bright aluminum, rather than the matte black stock one.

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Wow, that thing is huge, what are the measures?.
 
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[quote=Encho;13261247]Wow, that thing is huge, what are the measures?.[/quote.
Honestly i have no idea... it's the sames size as the radiator minus the collectors on the side and was about an inch thick. I'd go measure it, but it's sitting out at the curb with the trash.

Got the truck to the shop for vacuuming out and recharging. Sadly i dropped it off at 8AM and when i drove past to pick up the kid from the daycare with the wife it have some was sitting in the exact same spot. Thankfully, when i stopped in to see if they had done anything the truck was hooked up to their machine and being vacuumed out.

I was a nice change to have some A/C after the past few 90 degree days here in NC.
 

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