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Old May 27, 2013 | 11:39 PM
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E fuel kits

My trucks got another leak from the fuel pump. I have decided im not gonna change the fuel pump, as i should just get rid of it and upgrade it. Ive been looking around i see bar none diesel has a kit with everything and ive been comparing it to the beans kit. The biggest diffrence just looking at the websites is the 100 price and the filter microns.

Question is has anyone used either or kit ? which one is better
Installation seems pretty straight forward remove old pump and fuel bowl connect stock lines to fuel regulator and mount the pump and wiring relay.
Other than that is it pretty easy?

Thanks in advance guys.
 
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Old May 28, 2013 | 12:00 AM
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Seems to me like the beans kit is probably worth the extra. I did to mine basically what the bar none kit is. Looks like napa filters and bases, aeromotive reg and gauge, oring boss adapter, some wires, and fittings. The beans kit looks like stanadyne filters and bases with bowls, fancier mounts, and the whole system, not just parts of it. I originally designed one like the beans kit and realized it may never happen due to price so I went the other way and with my application am very happy. If you're already in that price range anyway I'd spring another $100 for the BDP kit. My $.02
 
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Old May 28, 2013 | 12:09 AM
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Seems to me like the beans kit is probably worth the extra. I did to mine basically what the bar none kit is. Looks like napa filters and bases, aeromotive reg and gauge, oring boss adapter, some wires, and fittings. The beans kit looks like stanadyne filters and bases with bowls, fancier mounts, and the whole system, not just parts of it. I originally designed one like the beans kit and realized it may never happen due to price so I went the other way and with my application am very happy. If you're already in that price range anyway I'd spring another $100 for the BDP kit. My $.02
im thinking im gonna go with the bar none kit. Im not to knowledgeable when it comes to filters. the beas one has a 150 pre filter where the bar none has 30 micron. what is the difference. the 150 finer filter? and when you refer to bowls do they catch the big particles?
 
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Old May 28, 2013 | 12:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Leemakesmepee
im thinking im gonna go with the bar none kit. Im not to knowledgeable when it comes to filters. the beas one has a 150 pre filter where the bar none has 30 micron. what is the difference. the 150 finer filter? and when you refer to bowls do they catch the big particles?
The number is the level of filtration in microns. A 30 will trap everything 30 and larger 150 the same, etc. You can get a 30 mic stanadyne filter too just as you could get a 150 mic napa filter if you wanted. The 150 will just let more through to the post pump filter. The bowls just let you see the crap that settles to the bottom of the filter. Not a necessity but kind of an accessory I believe. More than the bowls though the bdp kit seems like a more thorough kit altogether.
 
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Old May 28, 2013 | 08:51 AM
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The number is the level of filtration in microns. A 30 will trap everything 30 and smaller 150 the same, etc. You can get a 30 mic stanadyne filter too just as you could get a 150 mic napa filter if you wanted. The 150 will just let more through to the post pump filter. The bowls just let you see the crap that settles to the bottom of the filter. Not a necessity but kind of an accessory I believe. More than the bowls though the bdp kit seems like a more thorough kit altogether.
Oh alright makes sense. i kind of like the idea of the beans now. having those bowls as an extra and i dislike really anything from napa. Also i think the beans has a better grade hose.
 
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Old May 29, 2013 | 10:59 AM
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... Also i think the beans has a better grade hose.
Maybe so. They also give you what you need to swap the old lines out from the selector forward and not just to plumb in the new components.
 
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Old May 29, 2013 | 12:27 PM
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Correction, a 30 micron filter will trap particles 30 microns and LARGER, not smaller. So a 150 micron filter traps only things larger than 150 microns. The prefilter doesn't really matter much anyway, since whatever it missed will be caught by the final filter. They just use a two filter approach to make the filters less restrictive and last longer.

FWIW, there are a lot of guys putting together their own kits for around $300 but it typically means a bunch of trips to the hardware store and a lot more frustration. If you think doing e-fuel is at the limits of your ability, then by all means buy a kit and be done with it, but if you're tight for funds and don't mind the added time and frustration in building yourself a kit, you can save yourself some dough.
 
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Old May 29, 2013 | 02:32 PM
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Originally Posted by DIYMechanic
Correction, a 30 micron filter will trap particles 30 microns and LARGER, not smaller. So a 150 micron filter traps only things larger than 150 microns. The prefilter doesn't really matter much anyway, since whatever it missed will be caught by the final filter. They just use a two filter approach to make the filters less restrictive and last longer.

FWIW, there are a lot of guys putting together their own kits for around $300 but it typically means a bunch of trips to the hardware store and a lot more frustration. If you think doing e-fuel is at the limits of your ability, then by all means buy a kit and be done with it, but if you're tight for funds and don't mind the added time and frustration in building yourself a kit, you can save yourself some dough.
And the pre-filter protects your pump from trash.

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Old May 29, 2013 | 02:50 PM
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And the pre-filter protects your pump from trash.

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Yeah that too, provided you plumb it that way.
 
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Old May 29, 2013 | 03:19 PM
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Originally Posted by DIYMechanic
Correction, a 30 micron filter will trap particles 30 microns and LARGER, not smaller. ...
Oops. Now sure how I let myself type that. Fixed it though. It'd be a pretty neat trick to make it trap small stuff and let the big stuff pass.
 
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Old May 29, 2013 | 03:36 PM
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Mine came in right at 3 bills, but I had the luxury of Bill pre bending all the hard lines and Nate wiring it for me. Bill also pre bought all my fitting and i reimbursed him. My mount (ugly as it may be) was made out of scrap (and will get redone as I now know how it mounts correctly) and the reg was an eBay special to the tune of 25 bucks. I'm sure it's not the greatest, but Bill and I are both running it with no issues to date.
 
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Old May 30, 2013 | 05:57 AM
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Oops. Now sure how I let myself type that. Fixed it though. It'd be a pretty neat trick to make it trap small stuff and let the big stuff pass.
I figured that's what you meant.
 
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Old May 30, 2013 | 04:06 PM
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Originally Posted by tshrager
Mine came in right at 3 bills, but I had the luxury of Bill pre bending all the hard lines and Nate wiring it for me. Bill also pre bought all my fitting and i reimbursed him. My mount (ugly as it may be) was made out of scrap (and will get redone as I now know how it mounts correctly) and the reg was an eBay special to the tune of 25 bucks. I'm sure it's not the greatest, but Bill and I are both running it with no issues to date.
My e-fuel cost less than $350 with all brand new parts and a mount I made myself.
 
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Old May 30, 2013 | 10:24 PM
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From experience the Beans kit is functional but not worth the amount of money they ask for it. Not sure of current pricing. The filters and bases are only rated for 60 PSI IIRC. If you can make or have made an appropriate mounting bracket thats half the battle. Verify your bases and filters are rated for the fuel pressure your going to be running. There is nothing you cant procure at a Parker store in most of these kits as far as plumbing other than the regulator. I have many spare parts from the Beans kit if anybody is interested. PM me.
 
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Old Jun 9, 2013 | 01:54 PM
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So i went with the Bar none set, after talking to them it sounds easier than the beans set up. Plus 100 bucks cheaper... I was looking through other threads and ive seen alot of guys replace their stock banjo bolts with upgraded ones that have bigger holes. Has anyone tried these ? the ones from strictly diesel? I figured since im already putting an efuel set up in i might as well upgrade as much as i can.

The kit should prolly come sometime this week. Ill try and post some pics of the install.
 
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