head studs without head removal
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I personally think it's a waste of time and energy to put studs in without doing the HG's.How do you know the old gaskets seal didn't break? How do you know the trueness of the head torque to begin with ? My saying is if it not broke bad leave it be. I'm sure there is some that worked, but for how long ?
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I was wondering....some of you mentioned that if you have some degas puking this procedure is not recommended. I had some puking when I was running tuned but now run stock and have none. In all reality what could it hurt in my situation?
I have no overheating, no more puking (unless I am towing heavy and HARD then I get some but not much and that is sporatic) and all systems seem to be running normal.
Should I give it a go?
Is it possible the extra clamping force of the ARP's can seal any minor deficiencies?
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Joe
I have no overheating, no more puking (unless I am towing heavy and HARD then I get some but not much and that is sporatic) and all systems seem to be running normal.
Should I give it a go?
Is it possible the extra clamping force of the ARP's can seal any minor deficiencies?
Thanks
Joe
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Puking from the de-gas
If you have any puking from the de-gas you got a problem and the first thing I would do is hook up a pressure gauge to your de-gas bottle. This will tell you if you are over pressurizing the system or maybe you just have a bad de-gas cap. If the system is over the standard pressure 15-17 PSI ( I don't know the exact criteria)you definitely do not want to let it get worse. Water/antifreeze in the exhaust, not that bad, water/antifreeze in the oil BAD. My father a diesel mechanic for over 50+ years (he is 87) says don't let anti-freeze get in the oil or it will take out your rod and main bearings. It almost always starts with water in the exhaust (de-gas puking) than if left to get worse it eventually will overheat and there goes the motor. Good luck
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and go with the new (soon to be OEM) titatium head gaskets made by Victor Reinz. After countless hours of research my conclusion is that Victor Reinz produces the OEM gaskets for Ford, someone correct me if I am wrong. I was also told that this new titanium series gasket will replace all OEM's.
Why change from a proven combo (studs and Ford OEM gaskets)?
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Didn't VR make the Black Onyx...and now Black Diamond? OEM gaskets have a blue sealant coating that's been on many brands of aftermarket headgaskets for literally decades. I think VR is a good company with many good products but they clearly laid an egg on the Black Onyx gaskets for the 6.0 and caused many people a lot of grief and expense. The Jury is still out on the Black Diamond. The sealant is applied in a pattern similar to the OEM gaskets but is the black sealer instead of the blue. Time will tell I guess but mechanics who know aren't tripping over each other to use the new ones.
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I made about fifty phone calls to suppliers and I heard this from more than just one, that is why I bought the new titanium series gaskets. They are coated with the blue compound and are 5 layers thick, pretty much just like the current OEMs. A number of suppliers also said the same thing that these titanium series gaskets will be the new OEM's because they look exactly the same, but are made better somehow through research and development.
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Didn't VR make the Black Onyx...and now Black Diamond? OEM gaskets have a blue sealant coating that's been on many brands of aftermarket headgaskets for literally decades. I think VR is a good company with many good products but they clearly laid an egg on the Black Onyx gaskets for the 6.0 and caused many people a lot of grief and expense. The Jury is still out on the Black Diamond. The sealant is applied in a pattern similar to the OEM gaskets but is the black sealer instead of the blue. Time will tell I guess but mechanics who know aren't tripping over each other to use the new ones.
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