Tranny takes it's time
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Tranny takes it's time
My '95 Explorer with 210.000 kms (+/- 130.000 mls) on the odo starts getting lazy to shift into gear when the engine is cold.
Forward or reverse makes no difference, it takes about 4-6 seconds before the tranny reacts when I want to drive off.
Once rolling, the tranny works fine. On operating temp it's a lot better. I just came back from a vacationtrip to Spain, also in the mountains everything went perfect at the right rpm.
A professional transmissionshop changed (and flushed) the oil, his opinion was that internal plastic or rubber parts could be hardned out, if the problem gets worse he advises me a total overhaul.
That means a lot of euro's here in the Netherlands.
Anyone out there with the same experience/opinion?
Thanks in advance for reacting.
Tony.
Forward or reverse makes no difference, it takes about 4-6 seconds before the tranny reacts when I want to drive off.
Once rolling, the tranny works fine. On operating temp it's a lot better. I just came back from a vacationtrip to Spain, also in the mountains everything went perfect at the right rpm.
A professional transmissionshop changed (and flushed) the oil, his opinion was that internal plastic or rubber parts could be hardned out, if the problem gets worse he advises me a total overhaul.
That means a lot of euro's here in the Netherlands.
Anyone out there with the same experience/opinion?
Thanks in advance for reacting.
Tony.
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Tranny takes it's time
you might be experiencing fluid pressure problems.... (wild guess on your transmission, because I had that problem on mine)
When was the last time you had it flushed & filled?
I didn't klnow they sell those there in Holland..... wouldn't mind seeing a pic of what the difference, if any are....
How popular are they in Holland? Just out of curiosity.
Hope this helps.
Leo.
96 Explorer 4.0L OHV V6 (278.000 KMS) w/Flowmaster Exhaust,high flow cat, K&N Filter,& jet chip
When was the last time you had it flushed & filled?
I didn't klnow they sell those there in Holland..... wouldn't mind seeing a pic of what the difference, if any are....
How popular are they in Holland? Just out of curiosity.
Hope this helps.
Leo.
96 Explorer 4.0L OHV V6 (278.000 KMS) w/Flowmaster Exhaust,high flow cat, K&N Filter,& jet chip
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Hi Leo,
Thanks for responding, indeed it might be a future pressureproblem, i'll see how to deal with that.
Yes, US vehicles are pretty popular in Holland, special for people who like V8 engines and don't bother some extra weight, what I see as a safety issue.
Like ol' Henry said: there is no substitute for cubic inches.
But you've got to pay for it, first the import tax, then the roadtax.
My Explorer costs me 70 US$ a month roadtax, plus the same amount insurance a month.
One liter of gas is about 1.10 US$, that is 4US$ a gallon, count your blessings...
All makes are available here, Ford or GM. They have to confirm EU regulations, so not every model will be converted.
Conversion means a-symetric headlights (sealed beam lights are not allowed), amber turnsignals at the rear, and more technical stuff like that.
But if you want something, you got to go for it!
Thanks again, greetz, Tony
(BTW, Toronto is a great city, I've been there in '92!)
Thanks for responding, indeed it might be a future pressureproblem, i'll see how to deal with that.
Yes, US vehicles are pretty popular in Holland, special for people who like V8 engines and don't bother some extra weight, what I see as a safety issue.
Like ol' Henry said: there is no substitute for cubic inches.
But you've got to pay for it, first the import tax, then the roadtax.
My Explorer costs me 70 US$ a month roadtax, plus the same amount insurance a month.
One liter of gas is about 1.10 US$, that is 4US$ a gallon, count your blessings...
All makes are available here, Ford or GM. They have to confirm EU regulations, so not every model will be converted.
Conversion means a-symetric headlights (sealed beam lights are not allowed), amber turnsignals at the rear, and more technical stuff like that.
But if you want something, you got to go for it!
Thanks again, greetz, Tony
(BTW, Toronto is a great city, I've been there in '92!)
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Tranny takes it's time
I know that you said that a shop changed the tranny fluid, but have you checked to make sure that the level is correct? I have a 94 explorer and the tranny was doing some goofy stuff because it was about 1 1/2 quarts low.
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Thanks for your concern, maa 139.
Before the oilchange I told him that I went on a pretty long vacationtrip to France and Spain (I logged 4000 kms / 2500 mls in three weeks), he said he overfilled a little on purpose, the surplus should be spitted out by the tranny.
True, one time on a hot French highway at high rpm I smelled hot oil and the tailgate showed some oilspots. Since then it occurred never again.
I think I can trust the guy, he is already in the trannybusiness for more than 20 years and does all makes.
He also gives a one-year warranty covered by his branche-organisation, but only after a complete overhaul wich makes sense.
I must say that the long trip did some good to the transmission (and the engine), things are running smoother and the shiftdelay is getting less.
Thanks for responding, greetz, Tony.
Before the oilchange I told him that I went on a pretty long vacationtrip to France and Spain (I logged 4000 kms / 2500 mls in three weeks), he said he overfilled a little on purpose, the surplus should be spitted out by the tranny.
True, one time on a hot French highway at high rpm I smelled hot oil and the tailgate showed some oilspots. Since then it occurred never again.
I think I can trust the guy, he is already in the trannybusiness for more than 20 years and does all makes.
He also gives a one-year warranty covered by his branche-organisation, but only after a complete overhaul wich makes sense.
I must say that the long trip did some good to the transmission (and the engine), things are running smoother and the shiftdelay is getting less.
Thanks for responding, greetz, Tony.
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Tony
You said that they overfilled it on purpose??? It is my understanding that this can be VERY bad for a trans. I could be wrong about this better let others comment re this.
Dean
You said that they overfilled it on purpose??? It is my understanding that this can be VERY bad for a trans. I could be wrong about this better let others comment re this.
Dean
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I'm no mechanic, but that was my understanding as well. The Haynes manual that I have also says to NOT overfill the tranny as it can cause damage.
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If that's the case, I'll speak with him about this.
I have to rely on someone's opinion because I'm not the expert.
To be clear: we are talking about a little overfill. Maybe I was lucky it turned out right.
I'll be happy with some input who can explain me the details on this.
Greetz, Tony.
I have to rely on someone's opinion because I'm not the expert.
To be clear: we are talking about a little overfill. Maybe I was lucky it turned out right.
I'll be happy with some input who can explain me the details on this.
Greetz, Tony.
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I was looking around the web for more info re overfilling and could not find anything other than people saying that it will cause aeration of the ATF if it is overfilled. This MAY cause a drop in pressure and in tern cause ware of the bands and plates. I also found this test on transmissions and thought I would share it with you all. This is way more info that I could ever put in my head for one car component. I think I will ask my ford dealer if he has had his mechanics tested.
http://www.atra.com/testing/prep_test.pdf
I will keep looking and if needed look in my manual and see what it says about this.
Dean
http://www.atra.com/testing/prep_test.pdf
I will keep looking and if needed look in my manual and see what it says about this.
Dean