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Old May 16, 2013 | 11:27 AM
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coolant randomly going somewhere

my coolant level keeps going down, it isnt dripping and it isnt getting burn cause it hasnt ran in awhile. anybody got any ideas, 92 4.9 e40d
 
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Old May 16, 2013 | 12:13 PM
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Kind of a vague topic, a whole lot of different things could be going on. For me, my radiator had rusted out so bad that it was leaking slowly where the radiator cores meet the sides. It was very hard to spot.
 
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Old May 16, 2013 | 12:15 PM
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It has to be going somewhere. Either into the block, or out, it is going somewhere. How does the oil look? Inspect all around the hoses for ALL of the cooling system. Check the radiator for leaks. Inspect the water pump closely to see if it weeping from anywhere. Pull the cover from the heater core and check it for dampness/leaks.
 
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Old May 16, 2013 | 12:27 PM
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Put a pressure tester on it and have a good look , see if it holds pressure , check the cap to....
 
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yeah i havent checked the heater core or the oil. i did spend about half an hour looking all around from above and below and cant find anything, the water pump was a little damp but not damp enough to be the cause of the coolant going down, it doesnt make very much sense because it hasnt ran for a few weeks so it isnt burning it and there are no drips that i can see, i put cardboard under it last night to see if there are any drips that i missed in the dirt. i assume you just have to unscrew a couple of screws to get to the heater core? the heater core does make a noise when you start it but it sounds more like coolant going through the heater core rather than the sound of it leaking, also the last time we did start it it didnt smoke, it made that fog looking stuff (lack of better term) cause it was cold out but when it warmed up it stopped doing that, one time a few weeks ago when i revved it up a little bit i saw some white stuff i dont know if it was the fog stuff or white smoke cause i saw it out of my mirror. could that be it, doesnt coolant burn white?
 
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Old May 16, 2013 | 01:15 PM
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Yup should be white if there is enough to steam, blue for oil, and black for rich fuel. Your oil isn't milky is it?
 
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Old May 16, 2013 | 01:17 PM
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My first concern with coolant is always that it is making its way into the case and mixing with the oil. If you are hearing that liquid sound from the heater core when it first starts, you very well could be trading air for coolant somewhere. If the system were totally full and free of air, you wouldn't hear that noise.

I like the pressure test idea. Also check the carpeting under the heater core for wetness or coolant smell.
 
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Old May 16, 2013 | 02:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Bad Bad Leroy Brown
Yup should be white if there is enough to steam, blue for oil, and black for rich fuel. Your oil isn't milky is it?
do i have to pull the pan or drain it or will it show on the dipstick?
 
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Old May 16, 2013 | 02:47 PM
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Originally Posted by KineKilla
My first concern with coolant is always that it is making its way into the case and mixing with the oil. If you are hearing that liquid sound from the heater core when it first starts, you very well could be trading air for coolant somewhere. If the system were totally full and free of air, you wouldn't hear that noise.

I like the pressure test idea. Also check the carpeting under the heater core for wetness or coolant smell.
I had no idea that's what that sound was when I start my truck. My coolant is slowly going somewhere too.

Is the heater core hard to replace?
 
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Old May 16, 2013 | 03:08 PM
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do i have to pull the pan or drain it or will it show on the dipstick?
You should be able to tell by pulling the dipstick as long as the level is high enough. It will be a creamy light brown color if there is a coolant leak into the crankcase.

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I had no idea that's what that sound was when I start my truck. My coolant is slowly going somewhere too.

Is the heater core hard to replace?
Fairly easy. Drain the cooling system, detach the two hoses at the firewall I believe, go in the cab, remove glovebox, undo several fasteners from the cover panel in the dash, and then it should come out. Do a search and you should find several threads on it.
 
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Old May 16, 2013 | 03:14 PM
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Originally Posted by iRockFosgate
I had no idea that's what that sound was when I start my truck. My coolant is slowly going somewhere too.

Is the heater core hard to replace?
idk my truck made that sound for 12 years before this started happening
 
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Old May 16, 2013 | 10:03 PM
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idk my truck made that sound for 12 years before this started happening
I didn't say it HAD to be air getting in, but from what I know of liquid hydraulics, fluid moving through piping is typically quiet unless there is air in the line. Does your windshield get that bluish film on the inside quite often? A leaking heater core can be the culprit for that too.
 
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Old May 17, 2013 | 07:54 AM
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Originally Posted by KineKilla
I didn't say it HAD to be air getting in, but from what I know of liquid hydraulics, fluid moving through piping is typically quiet unless there is air in the line. Does your windshield get that bluish film on the inside quite often? A leaking heater core can be the culprit for that too.
i wasnt trying to be offensive if i've offended you, also no i have no blue film. the engine oil is fine a little dirty but it needs to be changed. the carpet around the heater core is dry and doesnt smell of coolant, also i have determined that the truck needs to be running for it to leak as it was moved around the yard for a day and the coolant went down, we filled it up and it hasnt leaked yet, meaning that it is either burning it or it will only leak when under pressure. How do you do that pressure test you were talking about?
 
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Old May 17, 2013 | 07:57 AM
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as a note the water pump is a bit wet, but not wet enough to be the source as this is a fairly big leak. also i didnt get the chance to pull the cover off of the heater core, but i do know the system has to be under pressure for it to leak.
 
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Old May 17, 2013 | 12:44 PM
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Usually the first spot for leaks is the joints of the hoses, even if the clamp seems tight enough. You might not notice it dripping, but a possibility. It could also be a mixed leak, with many small leaks on several parts of the system contributing. The leak from the water pump, where is it located?.
 
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