What engine size?
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What engine size?
I know there are ways to check for what type of engine this is? Thinking maybe if I posted a couple photos some of the pro would chime in and make a logical assumption. If not please let me know how I can determine in order to get parts. Thanks.Ford Truck Enthusiasts Forums - Irish19614x4's Album: 1961 F250 Unknown Engine?
Here is the link click above to my album showing photo, sorry about that side shot being rotated wrong I fixed it on my computer but when I upload it still comes in wrong.
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That is an FE engine. The 292 is a different series and design.
The FE has two things that id it at once. First, the intake manifold goes under the valve covers. No other Ford (or probably anything else) does that. And the spark plugs are //\\, again, no other Ford has them that way. As one fellow here put it, "Even Helen Keller could id an FE" or words to that effect.
Engine size: Since it is painted blue, and looks like it's been blue all along, let's pretend the paint is OEM original. Blue started in '66. That means it could be a 352, 360, or 390. It appears to have a 2bbl, so if it is OEM, that eliminates 428. 410s would have Mercury valve covers and have a 4bbl. 427s...well, it's not a 427.
If you can find some casting numbers, a date code and measure the stroke, we can probably figure it out. Many of these are identical externally, and nearly identical internally.
Wire or dowel down the plug hole and other info here:
http://www.clubfte.com/users/ratsmoker/FAQ.html
Number location pics. Down by the starter for the date code.
Ford 352, 390, 406, 427 and 428 Engine Blocks
The FE has two things that id it at once. First, the intake manifold goes under the valve covers. No other Ford (or probably anything else) does that. And the spark plugs are //\\, again, no other Ford has them that way. As one fellow here put it, "Even Helen Keller could id an FE" or words to that effect.
Engine size: Since it is painted blue, and looks like it's been blue all along, let's pretend the paint is OEM original. Blue started in '66. That means it could be a 352, 360, or 390. It appears to have a 2bbl, so if it is OEM, that eliminates 428. 410s would have Mercury valve covers and have a 4bbl. 427s...well, it's not a 427.
If you can find some casting numbers, a date code and measure the stroke, we can probably figure it out. Many of these are identical externally, and nearly identical internally.
Wire or dowel down the plug hole and other info here:
http://www.clubfte.com/users/ratsmoker/FAQ.html
Number location pics. Down by the starter for the date code.
Ford 352, 390, 406, 427 and 428 Engine Blocks
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FE Powered by Ford valve covers introduced in 1967 352/390/410/427/428 Passenger Cars & 352 F100/350's. No 360/390's installed in F100/350's until 1968.
Power steering available as an option in 1966 F100/250 2WD.
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I was told it was a 390, but I will run some tests like previously stated to try:
Wire or dowel down the plug hole and other info here:
Number location pics. Down by the starter for the date code.
Ford 352, 390, 406, 427 and 428 Engine Blocks
After I run these tests and read up I will post my results. Hopefully I can find those casting numbers as well. Thanks guys.
Turns out my fuel pump pulled away from block, I believe that the threads inside the motor where fuel pump bolt mounts to are stripped. I hope not but even if it is I will run a tap die on it or just buy the cover and seal it off then install a electronic fuel pump. So for starters I wanted to get exact engine size and year to confirm when ordering parts. Assuming though most are interchangable for a lot of these parts. Correct?
Wire or dowel down the plug hole and other info here:
Number location pics. Down by the starter for the date code.
Ford 352, 390, 406, 427 and 428 Engine Blocks
After I run these tests and read up I will post my results. Hopefully I can find those casting numbers as well. Thanks guys.
Turns out my fuel pump pulled away from block, I believe that the threads inside the motor where fuel pump bolt mounts to are stripped. I hope not but even if it is I will run a tap die on it or just buy the cover and seal it off then install a electronic fuel pump. So for starters I wanted to get exact engine size and year to confirm when ordering parts. Assuming though most are interchangable for a lot of these parts. Correct?
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My next plan of action once its running good, I will be pulling motor to start a restoration. Repaint that motor as well and go through it with a fine comb to ensure its strong. Clean up that engine compartment and at some point body off frame restoration to clean up undercarraiage. I will start a new thread on that soon hopefully and people can follow along.
Another quick question I have a buddy who has a 1967 Fastback Mustang with a non-original 351C in it. Runs great and already painted with no oil leaks. He is gonna put car in storage but told me he would sell me that motor for $500. I know I don't have photo of it at the moment but think that is a good price for a 351C? And also would that be a ideal motor swap for my 1961 F250 rather then a 390? Assuming right now that my current motor is a 390 should I leave it or go with 351C?
Another quick question I have a buddy who has a 1967 Fastback Mustang with a non-original 351C in it. Runs great and already painted with no oil leaks. He is gonna put car in storage but told me he would sell me that motor for $500. I know I don't have photo of it at the moment but think that is a good price for a 351C? And also would that be a ideal motor swap for my 1961 F250 rather then a 390? Assuming right now that my current motor is a 390 should I leave it or go with 351C?
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Casting numbers are foundry marks only, are WORTHLESS for ID'ing FE engine sizes, since all were cast as 352's.
Many blocks have 352 cast onto them, that also means nothing, as it too is a foundry mark.
Many blocks have 352 cast onto them, that also means nothing, as it too is a foundry mark.
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So then the only way to really test and find out what size it is, how?
****nevermind you answered this question already! Previous thread before I got truck you mentioned only way to know for sure was measure the stroke. So I will do that and post my results. Next two days off work so I hope to get some things accomplished.
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Hey if you know anyone with a bed that is the proper bed for this truck let me know. 1961 F250 Highboy 4x4. Or any pick u part places nearby Orange County that may hold one.
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What bed is in it?
A 351 Cleveland will not bolt to anything you currently have.
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I am pretty sure the proper bed is an 8 foot bed, fleet or flair. I may be wrong but this is what I get from the parts magazines and doing some measuring. If someone tells you they have an "express bed", it should work as it is a term for an 8 ft bed.I am always searching Clist for a pickup bed trailer with a flair side long bed, I have found 2 with short flairsides, one for $275 and the other for a gun or ammo trade only. Both need new floors and some patching.
I have searched 7 junk yards from Arkansas City, KS to Norman, OK. I found 1 long bed but they will not part out the truck and the bed is not that great. I found a really good short bed flairside at the junk yard for $500. Every one of those guys smile and say they just crushed one within the last couple weeks or months.
Good luck finding one.
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Why be concerned if it is a 352, 360 or 390? Brag that it is a 390 stroker if that thrills you, throw on a quad and call it a 429 or call it a 352 original if that is what the next owner wants to hear. 
I would go with what is on the data tag. All the external parts will be the same (as far as I know).
I would go with what is on the data tag. All the external parts will be the same (as far as I know).