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Old Mar 21, 2013 | 01:01 PM
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will this engine work

I just got a 1966 f100 with no motor or trans. This my first ford, I plan on a 351w at some point but I haven't found one yet. I did find a 302 that is in a 1976 van. It has some weird brackets on front for the a/c I assume. I know nothing else about it, would this b an option for my truck for a temp motor? Should I be looking g for a specific year or donor vehicle? Thanks for any info I can get and this my first post so thanks for having me here.
 
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Old Mar 21, 2013 | 01:39 PM
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EDITED.

disregard...i see you said "van". i missed that part.

welcome aboard.
 
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Old Mar 21, 2013 | 06:34 PM
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sgthopkins, Welcome to FTE & the Slicks Forum

Brother, I think if my truck had no engine or tranny, I would work towards the setup that I intended to use. I would look at a mid 90s truck for the W and an AOD tranny. These old trucks have plenty wind resistance so the AOD can really help with the mpgs. I think I would be looking EFI for my truck but that may not be in your plans.

Take your time do it right once, you have the rest of your life, lets keep mistakes to a minimum.


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Old Mar 21, 2013 | 06:55 PM
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Hey thanks guys, I have tossed around the idea of an efi I just don't have a clue where to start. This truck has not wireing harness or anything. It has been striped of everything but body and frame. I want to buid a nice, clean, but nasty mean truck. I was going to go with a 351w and carb for simplicity, but I really like the look of a modern engine in an older car or truck. Its an automatic but I have thought about changing to a manual trans. I could also use pointers for that as well. I will search the forum for info when I can. I figure since it has nothing that I will basically have to change the pedals and the rest will fall in place.
 
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Old Mar 21, 2013 | 07:04 PM
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Originally Posted by jowilker
I would look at a mid 90s truck for the W and an AOD tranny.
This is a good point- if i was starting from square one, i would ABSOLUTELY be putting something in that would bolt up to an overdrive tranny.

with that said- the 302 will mate up to an overdrive tranny- but i'm guessing the '76 transmission doesn't have an O/D gear.
 
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Old Mar 21, 2013 | 07:48 PM
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Ok, I found some 5.8's out of a 95 ford bronco which is 4x4, will that matter? Also, will the trans matter if it is 4x4 or 2x4 trans?
 
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Old Mar 21, 2013 | 11:21 PM
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4x4 is out of my area, but-
if its a divorced transfer case, you should be able to use the transmission.
if its a married case- pass.

hopefully someone will be along to confirm.
 
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Old Mar 21, 2013 | 11:22 PM
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don't forget to look in the cars, too- Crown Vic, etc.
 
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Old Mar 22, 2013 | 03:35 AM
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Originally Posted by sgthopkins
I just got a 1966 f100 with no motor or trans. This my first ford, I plan on a 351w at some point but I haven't found one yet.

I did find a 302 that is in a 1976 Econoline.
Welcome to FTE

When the Econoline was redesigned in 1975, only 3 engines were available thru 1978: 300 I-6, 351W and 460. 302 wasn't available until 1979.

The only V8 available in 1969/74 Econolines was the 302.

No engine mounting parts from any year Econoline can be used in F100/350's.

302: 1969/79 F100 & 1975/79 F150. These engine mounting parts can be used in 1965/68 F100 2WD's.

1977/79 F100/350 351M/400 2WD's used the same engine supports (aka towers, stands, perches) as 1969/79 F100/150 302.
 
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Old Mar 22, 2013 | 05:20 AM
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sgt. Let's put this project on lockdown, put a tarp over it, and walk away. It appears to me that you have no plan at all.

Tell us a little about what's going on. Can you post, or link to any detailed photos of this project? What is your skill level? What kind of tools do you have access to? What kind of work space do you have to work in? How much time do you have to complete the truck? How much money do you have to apply to the project?

You left out the wiring on your first post, it makes it hard to answer your questions when we don't have all the facts or access. We don't sell here but the money thing can help us help you get on the right track.



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Old Mar 22, 2013 | 06:33 AM
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Jowilker you are correct, I just got the truck and I don't have definite plan. I was going to an engine from the old van, that was my plan. I have now found out that it isn't a good plan so I have to investigate and educate myself to form another plan which is what I am doing on this forum. My work space is outdoors, I have no time limit and I have four kids so I do not have unlimited funds. Tools are not an issue and I it will b under a tarp till I can educate myself some more. Maybe I misread your post but I'm sorry if I am wasting your time asking my questions here. I will post some pics when I figure out how, I will try a few that I have on my phone, but they are not of the engine compartment, I will get those later. Ok, I will have to figure out the pics from my phone later today.
 
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Old Mar 22, 2013 | 09:08 AM
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Hey sgt,

So here's the deal as I see it...you have a blank canvas to work with...no engine, trans or wiring harness.At the
moment you're a bit scattered, naturally, we all are when we get started! Basically starting from zero...if you got
this truck for a song, and it's a shell, maybe use it as a parts truck and find a more complete slick??

If I were you, I'd start looking for a low 90's EFI 5.0 mustang, and pull the engine/AOD trans...these are widely
found engines with a crap-load of aftermarket mods available...engine mounts are a piece of cake, and so is running
exhaust headers at one point-the 302 leave a lot of room in the engine compartment...stick with the automatic.

I'm no expert on the wiring, but I do know that a new wiring harness I think goes for about $400 or so, and if you go
EFI from a Mustang, you'll have to integrate the electronics in there with the truck harness.There are other issues
such as the kick-down cable, modifying the floor shift mustang trans to column and fuel tank etc, but I know a lot
of guys have done this conversion...

Do some searching on the site here, a wealth of info is avail. I'll warn you, there are a few crotchety old sods here who
like to dispense their wisdom in an un-gentle manner, it's kinda like taking a sip of water from a fire hose...so don't worry,
you're not wasting anyone's time either...welcome to the forum Mate!

Best,
Jason
 
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Old Mar 22, 2013 | 09:59 AM
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when you said "no wiring harness", do you mean just the engine harness, or the whole truck?
 
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Old Mar 22, 2013 | 10:35 AM
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Cropdusterman, thanks for the info. I plan on building this truck, the interior has had some work done already that I gotta finish but that is all. The shifter is already in the floor also, it has a new gas tank so an inline pump I assume will be needed for the 5.0.

Rustywheel, the cab is wired, just not the engine comp.

I understand criticism and can take it also, I just don't want to overstep my boundaries being new to the board.
 
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Old Mar 22, 2013 | 10:42 AM
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Originally Posted by sgthopkins
Rustywheel, the cab is wired, just not the engine comp.
This is good news- there's not that much wire under the hood anyway.
Plan on starting out with a "3G" alternator, and you won't even have to wire up an external voltage regulator.

for points ignition & charging, that leaves you with:
1. wire from ignition switch to coil positive
2. wire from alternator 'idiot light' to 3G alternator
3. wire from starter solenoid "S" terminal to coil positive
4. small wire from alt to battery positive
5. large wire from alt to starter solenoid
 
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