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Old Mar 10, 2013 | 09:41 PM
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vacuum and timing issues

We got the 300 six installed in a 1976 F100 that had a 360 originally. The engine had sat for a number of years, don't know exactly but she started right up when everything was in place. Other than moving the distributor, we had run the oil pump to get things oiled, we didn't do anything to it. After running the truck for a day after setting the timing buy the timing mark, I checked the vacuum. The timing is at the farthest mark without going off the mark and she only shows 16 inches of vacuum. Without going off the mark is this reasonable? She doesn't miss and starts right up. From the numbers on the block it looks like it's a 1969 engine.
 
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Old Mar 11, 2013 | 08:52 AM
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Sixteen inches is a little low for a healthy engine. How does the truck drive?
 
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Old Mar 11, 2013 | 09:28 AM
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The timing marks may have shifted due to an old harmonic balancer. Try adjusting the timing by rotating the distributor while the engine is running and watch the vacuum gauge. Make sure the vacuum line is disconnected from the distributor and plugged.

My engine has 20.5" @ 700 RPMs, but I retard the timing until it has ~19 1/4" vacuum, due to slight pinging while under load.
 
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Old Mar 12, 2013 | 12:03 AM
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Denny says the truck drives fine. I"m going to see about driving it myself to check out the timing. I used to check out my mustang, 1968 by setting the timing by the marks and driving up a hill till I would get it to ping than back it off. Worked every time. I didn't have a vacuum gage back then but the pinging worked fine.
 
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Old Mar 17, 2013 | 06:17 PM
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i would go with adjusting the timing as well. 16" ain't all that horrible out here in colorado...
 
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Old Mar 18, 2013 | 10:47 AM
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Use a vacuum gauge to set the timing and adjust the carb. Disconnectthe vac advance line to the dizzy and plug it. Attach the vacuum gauge to a full vacuum manifold source. Turn the dizzy until the highest steady vacuum reading is achieved and then back off 1-2 hg. Adjust the carb idle speed and then the mixture screws the same way the dizzy was adjusted. Go through the routine again...dizzy then carb, dizzy then carb, etc. That gets you at a good starting point for further adjustments if needed after you drive it and gives the engine a tune according to what it "likes" and your manner of driving.
 
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Old Mar 20, 2013 | 06:54 PM
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We tried the pinging going up the hill but didn't hear the pinging. When we got back to the shop I checked the vacuum and after adjusting the idle it read almost 18inches of vacuum. When we used the timing light, the mark was way past the mark. The mark on the harmonis balencer is way below the mark on the engine as in almost double the mark looking down from the passenger side. If the end mark is 10 DEGs it looks around 20 DEGS. The engine has the petronics ignition. Would that make a differance?
 
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Old Mar 21, 2013 | 09:51 AM
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The balancer ring may have slipped [not uncommon on older engines]. Take a crayon or piece of chalk and make line across the face of the harmonic balancer [with the engine turned OFF]. After driving for awhile, stop the engine and see if the mark is still continuous. If there is a break in the line, the harmonic balancer needs replacing.
 
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