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Old Feb 26, 2013 | 09:20 PM
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VGT %

I programmed VGT % into my ScanGauge II tonight. It shows 85 (percent, I presume?) at idle, 55 or so at highway speeds, and once showed 46 when I quickly lifted my foot off the pedal. I never saw it go above 85. First, is this normal? Second, what is VGT % telling me?
 
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Old Feb 26, 2013 | 09:43 PM
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Varitable geometry turbo. The veins are not fixed. They move.
 
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Old Feb 26, 2013 | 09:45 PM
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Even a snap on verus scanner wont let u close the veins 100%. It closes 85% even testing it.
 
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Old Feb 26, 2013 | 09:53 PM
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I beleive thats good numbers. If u have doubts,take the turbo off . Once removed take the center band clamp off. Remove the hotside and go to chipping out the carbon and rust....more often times than not,turbos are diagnosed as bad because the veins are sticking.
 
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I beleive thats good numbers. If u have doubts,take the turbo off . Once removed take the center band clamp off. Remove the hotside and go to chipping out the carbon and rust....more often times than not,turbos are diagnosed as bad because the veins are sticking.
Nah, not that curious. I assume that the VGT % is percent closed, as in if you could push it hard enough to open the vanes all the way up, then the VGT % would be zero percent. Correct?
 
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Old Feb 26, 2013 | 10:38 PM
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Nah, not that curious. I assume that the VGT % is percent closed, as in if you could push it hard enough to open the vanes all the way up, then the VGT % would be zero percent. Correct?

Answer : Yes

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Old Feb 26, 2013 | 11:12 PM
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The VGT reading is a "desired" reading.

In the past, I was told with engine hot and at idle, my reading should be under 80%. Mine was like yours. Some said I had an issue with the vanes sticking, cause the PCM wasn't seeing enough EBP pressure, so it was requesting more. (Ford states 60-82% at idle)

Well, I since put in a new turbo, Powermax, and guess what? It still reads at around 85%.

So, I quit worrying about it! LOL

Here is a good look at the turbo and diagnostics.

http://www.fordtechservice.dealercon...6lvgtguide.pdf
 
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Old Feb 27, 2013 | 09:58 AM
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Originally Posted by amdriven2liv
The VGT reading is a "desired" reading.

In the past, I was told with engine hot and at idle, my reading should be under 80%. Mine was like yours. Some said I had an issue with the vanes sticking, cause the PCM wasn't seeing enough EBP pressure, so it was requesting more. (Ford states 60-82% at idle)

Well, I since put in a new turbo, Powermax, and guess what? It still reads at around 85%.

So, I quit worrying about it! LOL

Here is a good look at the turbo and diagnostics.

http://www.fordtechservice.dealercon...6lvgtguide.pdf
Nice! That's a ton of info, thanks. So, the 85% at idle seems normal enough. What about the 50s at highway speeds? How low will it go at full throttle?
 
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That is about normal highway %.

Romp on it! You can see it get down to 14%. I have anyway.

Towing up grades with my TT at around 8000#, I will see in the 30's.

Normally, mine runs at highway speeds and minor grades here and there, 48-55%.

Edit: need to add, when I pull up to a light, it will be in the high 60's low 70's. Only in park will it rise to the 80's.

Edit: my 'P' key has issues!!! LOL
 
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Old Feb 27, 2013 | 08:32 PM
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Nah, not that curious. I assume that the VGT % is percent closed, as in if you could push it hard enough to open the vanes all the way up, then the VGT % would be zero percent. Correct?
85% is all the way closed to aid in warming up the engine, 15% is all the way open from what i have read anyways
 
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Old Feb 28, 2013 | 09:07 AM
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Heres a turbo i rebuilt for a 450hp truck. This one twisted the exaust wheel off and spit it out the pipe. He needed a upgrade.
 
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Old Feb 28, 2013 | 09:50 PM
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Originally Posted by amdriven2liv
That is about normal highway %.

Romp on it! You can see it get down to 14%. I have anyway.

Towing up grades with my TT at around 8000#, I will see in the 30's.

Normally, mine runs at highway speeds and minor grades here and there, 48-55%.

Edit: need to add, when I pull up to a light, it will be in the high 60's low 70's. Only in park will it rise to the 80's.

Edit: my 'P' key has issues!!! LOL
I got on it pretty good last night and saw <30, so I don't think mine is sticking. I have the stock '03, cat free whistle, so I suspect the neighbors wish the thing would blow up!
 
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Old Feb 28, 2013 | 09:58 PM
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VGT% here the Value

VGTDC # 0 73 43 0 - 100 PERCENT Turbo Duty Cycle

First # is at KOEO
2nd# is Idel
3RD# is 2500 rpm

Last 2 #s is Range

With the right stratigy if you idel long enough PCM will sweep the veins Most folks notice this by the Change in Tone in the Exhaust at Idel
 
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Old Feb 28, 2013 | 10:11 PM
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Originally Posted by BLADE35
VGT% here the Value

VGTDC # 0 73 43 0 - 100 PERCENT Turbo Duty Cycle

First # is at KOEO
2nd# is Idel
3RD# is 2500 rpm

Last 2 #s is Range

With the right stratigy if you idel long enough PCM will sweep the veins Most folks notice this by the Change in Tone in the Exhaust at Idel
I did a VGT relearn recently. Prior to that, mine would start with a really nice rumble that would end in about 5 seconds, when the turbo would obviously "kick in" and change the rumble into a high pitched whine. After the relearn, this no longer happens. The rumble will continue until I hit the throttle. I wish I'd had the VGT % programmed in back then, so as to see what the numbers would have been then.
 
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Old Mar 6, 2013 | 10:45 PM
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Originally Posted by amdriven2liv
The VGT reading is a "desired" reading.

In the past, I was told with engine hot and at idle, my reading should be under 80%. Mine was like yours. Some said I had an issue with the vanes sticking, cause the PCM wasn't seeing enough EBP pressure, so it was requesting more. (Ford states 60-82% at idle)

Well, I since put in a new turbo, Powermax, and guess what? It still reads at around 85%.

So, I quit worrying about it! LOL

Here is a good look at the turbo and diagnostics.

http://www.fordtechservice.dealercon...6lvgtguide.pdf
Been mulling your "desired" comment over for a few days. So, you're saying that the VGT % really has nothing to do with what's really happening with the turbo, but rather what the PCM (or some other computer on the truck) is telling it that it should be doing? In other words, we really don't have a way of measuring the the actual percent closure of the vanes? That would make sense, since changing out your turbo didn't seem to change the numbers that you got at all. The program was still giving the VGT the same input, so the ScanGauge was still showing the same numbers. Is that all about right?
 
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