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Old Feb 23, 2013 | 10:30 AM
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Smog Pump 351W

Hey guys, I am rebuilding a 1985 F-150 with the 351W for a friend of mine. He wants to delete the smog pump and all of its components.

Can anyone give me any information on anything I would have to BUY when i remove all of this crap? thanks in advance
 
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Old Feb 23, 2013 | 06:15 PM
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Old Feb 23, 2013 | 09:37 PM
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Yes get rid of all the smog junk and don't lose a second of sleep over it, and if so equipped make double sure you also lose that stupid heat riser butterfly valve between the passenger exhaust manifold and Y pipe.
 
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Old Feb 24, 2013 | 08:08 PM
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thanks man. we had to cut the exhaust to get it out, and this truck does have one O2 sensor. Can I leave this out when i reinstall it or will the truck get stupid on me?
 
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Old Feb 26, 2013 | 07:15 PM
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If you have FI or a feedback carb then you will need the O2 but if you plan on using a plan carb then you can ditch the O2.
 
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Old Feb 26, 2013 | 07:18 PM
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Originally Posted by jimbbski
If you have FI or a feedback carb then you will need the O2 but if you plan on using a plan carb then you can ditch the O2.
ok,so if i buy headeders, can i just weld a thread-o-let into the header for the O2 sensor and it work properly????
 
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Old Feb 26, 2013 | 07:21 PM
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so....
just to make sure i have everything in order.

remove smog pump and all corresponding plumbing.

the TAD, TAB, and EVR solenoids can be left inplace and wired in, just no vacuum lines

leave EGR valve in place, just remove tube that goes to headers.

O2 has to be in place

with this being done, the engine will throw no CEL, idle propery, and not run rich or lean.

CORRECT??????
 
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Old Feb 26, 2013 | 10:37 PM
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You didn't say if carb or FI?
If FI you have SD (Speed Density) injection.
The EGR system should be left in place and functional.
It doesn't limit power as it only mixes exhaust gases with the incoming fuel/air mixture under certain conditions. When you ask your engine for high power the EGR system is disabled.
It also reduces the combustion temps in the cylinder which reduces the engines octane requirement. What this means is that if the engine was on the limit of pinging then removing the EGR may cause it to start doing so.
You would then either have to use a higher octane fuel or retard the timing
One will cost you more money when you buy fuel and one will cost you performance and fuel mileage!
 
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Don't forget to plug the air injection lines at the back of the cyl heads where the air gets injected there. On the HO there was a steel tube with an air check valve about centered on the intake and that smog pump was plumbed in there too.
 
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Old Mar 3, 2013 | 05:59 PM
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its a speed density FI 351. the egr valve is in place and plugged in electrically and by vacuum. The pipe from the valve to the passenger exhaust manifold is capped. tis was done before i ever touched the truck. I am gonna go ahead and do away with the smog system along with all the BS that goes along with it. I am going to put the EGR back like I found it and go from there. Thanks again guys.
 
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Old Mar 3, 2013 | 09:07 PM
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Originally Posted by jawilla
its a speed density FI 351. the egr valve is in place and plugged in electrically and by vacuum. The pipe from the valve to the passenger exhaust manifold is capped. tis was done before i ever touched the truck. I am gonna go ahead and do away with the smog system along with all the BS that goes along with it. I am going to put the EGR back like I found it and go from there. Thanks again guys.
being a 85 it's not a FI 351W unless the FI was swapped on.. ya sure it aint a 5.0??
 
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