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Old Feb 19, 2013 | 12:41 PM
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injector trouble. p1272 code

i have a 2002 f450 with a 7.3. i have a hard code 1272- high to low side open. i have done the tests that the ford manual said to do. tested the injector, less than 5 ohms like the book said. tested the wiring harness from valve cover connector to idm, all tested good tested valve cover connector and showed good. did wiggle test on harnesses, all good. book said to replace idm, replaced it and still has same problem!! anybody have this problem before! and any hints what to look for next?
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Old Feb 19, 2013 | 01:03 PM
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Have you done the 50 cent mod? All my connectors ohmed out okay but I found burt harnesses when I went to replace my GPs.
 
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Old Feb 19, 2013 | 01:10 PM
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did not do the 50 cent mod, but checked the connectors inside and outside of valve cover and nothing was burned out, and checked with ohm meter, and read 0 ohms. and the plug is not loose.
 
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Old Feb 19, 2013 | 01:26 PM
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I have actually seen high to low side opens from the armature screws being loose under the solenoid.

Have you tried swapping the injector with another hole to see if the code followed?

I would also check for chaffing near the DS shock tower, over the 42 pin harness on the DS valvecover, as well as the lifting eye on the head.
 
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Old Feb 19, 2013 | 02:14 PM
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i have not tried that, think that will be my next step. does anyone know if this problem would cause the check engine light to come on at idle, but if you press the throttle the light goes out. as soon as you let off throttle it will come back on. oil pressure is good so that isnt causing it i know.
 
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Old Feb 19, 2013 | 02:16 PM
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i have not tried that, think that will be my next step. does anyone know if this problem would cause the check engine light to come on at idle, but if you press the throttle the light goes out. as soon as you let off throttle it will come back on. oil pressure is good so that isnt causing it i know.
That kind of sounds like an intermittent connection. Do you have AE? Did you check the harness over the driver side vc for chafing?
 
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Old Feb 19, 2013 | 03:22 PM
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been thru all the harnesses on this did not see any chafing. only codes im bringing up is for the idm. p1272 high to low side open. im using a snapon modis for doing the diagnostics. going to try to swap injectors in the morning to see if code jumps to the next injector.
 
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Old Feb 20, 2013 | 01:57 AM
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The swap will help isolate it down at a minimum.

When you perform a "BUZZ" test do they all sound the same or is one(likely #2) softer?
 
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Old Feb 20, 2013 | 05:16 AM
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I just thought this worth mentioning: I wouldn't pull the injectors, just swap the solenoids. Pulling injectors involves o-rings and 7.3L bodily fluids.
 
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Old Feb 20, 2013 | 08:21 AM
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im really scratching my head now!! lol. i swapped the injectors to diffrent holes, did injector buzz test all 8 buzz loud and clear. still got p1272 code. pulled off gasket, checked all wiring on it all tested fine. checked connections in gasket, good. replaced them anyway. still p1272 code comes up.i have checked the harness from the valve cover to the idm, circuit 557, low side white wire to idm, less than 5 ohms, actualluy showed .02 ohms. i checked high side circuit 878 pink and yellow wire from valve cover injector harness to idm connector, shows fine, and tested to see if they are shorted together, was good. now im at a real loss. i have replaced idmnot sure whats next. grrrrrr!!!
 
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Old Feb 20, 2013 | 10:06 AM
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im really scratching my head now!! lol. i swapped the injectors to diffrent holes, did injector buzz test all 8 buzz loud and clear. still got p1272 code. pulled off gasket, checked all wiring on it all tested fine. checked connections in gasket, good. replaced them anyway. still p1272 code comes up.i have checked the harness from the valve cover to the idm, circuit 557, low side white wire to idm, less than 5 ohms, actualluy showed .02 ohms. i checked high side circuit 878 pink and yellow wire from valve cover injector harness to idm connector, shows fine, and tested to see if they are shorted together, was good. now im at a real loss. i have replaced idmnot sure whats next. grrrrrr!!!
.02 ohms is not right. you probably have an issue with one or two injector solenoids. what were the exact readings for each injector harness? Thay all should be very close to 2.9ohms.
 
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Old Feb 20, 2013 | 10:25 AM
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Dont forget to check the harness wires under the valve cover to make sure none of them are routed against a rod. The movement can also cause wear there and cause a short.
 
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Old Feb 20, 2013 | 02:05 PM
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Not trying to be rude, but you did clear the codes right? Is it possible you had a loose UVCH connection but neglected to clear the code?
 
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Old Feb 21, 2013 | 07:16 AM
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not being rude at all. any help i get is great.yes i did clear the code. came right back. but the boss decided to retire this truck and trade it in. has over 500 thousand on it and said he didnt want to spend any more money on it. thanks everyone for your help. this site and the people on it are great!
 
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Old Feb 21, 2013 | 09:24 AM
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not being rude at all. any help i get is great.yes i did clear the code. came right back. but the boss decided to retire this truck and trade it in. has over 500 thousand on it and said he didnt want to spend any more money on it. thanks everyone for your help. this site and the people on it are great!
Wow, if my truck gets anywhere close to that many miles on it I will be a happy boy!
 
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