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Old Jun 2, 2003 | 10:01 AM
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Originally posted by 1970f2504x4
So I'm in my 64 Deville today, top down, enjoying the rare sunny day here in the north east lately. Some moron in a Lexus is behind me. I'm doing maybe 30 in a 35. All of a sudden I hear a honk.. I look in my rearview mirror and I observe this jerk giving me the annoyed hand signals that I should speed up and do the 60mph this guy probably wants to go. The horn beeping is all that was needed to tick me off. What did I do? Well... 30 is waaay to fast.. lets go to 20-25 and wave at him. Nothing obscene... just wave and smile. Heh.. This guy was fuming..
Why not just pull over a little and let him by? Maybe he had a genuine reason for needing to get past in a hurry. It's better for you too, let him by then go about your business.

Did you notice him right away? The horn was to get your attention, he should have flashed the brights, but maybe he did and you didn't notice. At any rate, you failed to be courteuos.

IMHO, you're the instigator, you made the first agressive move by slowing down to 20, you KNEW that would only aggravate him, and did it for fun.

Of course he was fuming, I'd be fuming, put yourself in that situation when you were in a hurry. You've never had to get anywhere quick? Maybe his wife was in labour or something.

Finally the road opened up to a passing lane and the guy sped past me. A few hand gestures, then the guy gets in front of me.. slams his brakes nearly sending me off the road and puts his flashers on.. then speeds off to about 65.
You had it coming, you're the one that slowed down to 20mph in a 35 zone.

If you would have had the common courtesy to allow him past in the first place, there would have been no incident. You were in the wrong from the get go, if you want to travel less than the speed limit, have the courtesy to allow those that want to travel the legal limit to pass.

IMHO, people who "safely" travel less than the limit cause WAY MORE accidents than those doing 10 mph over the limit.

Where oh where is a cop when you need one? That would have been fitting.
Hopefully dealing with real issues rather than some squabbles between "kids".

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Old Jun 2, 2003 | 10:51 AM
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Like I said, I was in the wrong.. next time I'll just go 10-15 over like everyone else. I'll pull over for any car that is tailgating me.. or is within the safe car distace. I'll never look ahead.. only in the rearview mirror watching for someone who *MAY* want to get ahead who things 10-30 over the speed limit is just too darn slow.

I GET THE POINT.. there was no need for a personal attack, Waxy
 

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Old Jun 2, 2003 | 11:36 AM
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Actually Waxy brought up every situation that was in the original post. He did not call you names.
He basically analyzed the post and commented on it with his Opinion.

When he said: "you had it coming".
Well,I don't agree with that statement.

There is a different mentality out there than what used to be 20-30 years ago.
Too many people "in a Hurry"...and too many people think they are "the boss of the road".

This is one of the reasons why sometimes it is *Just Better that people NOT post things that could get emotional.

Driving these days is getting worse for everyone and there are many different reactions to situations than there used to be.

There Never used to be "Road Rage", Now.... it is very prevalent.
 
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Old Jun 2, 2003 | 11:42 AM
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Yep, I wish I never created this particular post...

I see I was in the wrong... I already admiitted that.

Like I said.. next time I'll do 10-15 over.. anyone wants to go faster.. I'll pull over.
 
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Old Jun 2, 2003 | 11:45 AM
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Originally posted by 1970f2504x4
Wow, from what I have read it sounds like I was in the wrong. It's the first time I have ever seen or experienced someone getting honked at for going 3 or 4 miles per hour under the speed limit. I pretty much always keep up with traffic, which I was (there wasn't too much out that day). Traffic in front of me was going around the same rate up further ahead.

I agree with you that driving under the speed limit might be a bit rude, I wasn't in a rush to get anywhere and traffic pretty much does that rate anyways since it's a pretty populated area. Yeah, I probably shouldn't have messed with the guy.. I'll admit that. The best thing I could have done is ignore him.. maybe speed up to the speed limit (wow, another 3 or 4 miles per hour) and continued on. If he persisted.. raise the cell phone and call it in. If I were to speed up over the speed limit and got nabbed for a speeding ticket? Who won there? The cop won't want to hear about the other guy.. he probably hears that one all the time.
You weren't being rude. The posted speed limit is the MAXIMUM speed allowed, taking into consideration road conditions. You don't HAVE to do 35 in a 35mph zone.

As for "tapping the brakes", anything you do that's malicious in any way puts you in the wrong. Pass a cop and "tap" your brakes and see what happens.
 
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Old Jun 2, 2003 | 11:58 AM
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It wasn't I who tapped my brakes.. He did all the braking.. I just took my foot off the gas at the time. I was still being rude.. I'm in the wrong, it's done. Let the aggressive drivers have their way.
 
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Old Jun 2, 2003 | 01:12 PM
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I don't think you were wrong. Bleep that other guy. Assuming you were both going to the same destination 35 miles away he would have gotten there 10 min. ahead of you. Now is ten min worth dying for? Killing someone else (family of 4 with children/babies) for?

Now for the other side, something that was mentioned in a traffic school I had to go to:

X% of drivers are drunk
X% of drivers are criminals
X% of drivers are on drugs
X% of drivers are armed

Now that means that there is some percentage of drivers that are armed drunk criminals on drugs. Is that someone you want to provoke?
 
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Old Jun 2, 2003 | 02:26 PM
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Originally posted by 1970f2504x4

I GET THE POINT.. there was no need for a personal attack, Waxy
I didn't mean it as a personal attack, as Dennis stated, I was simply breaking down the post and presenting my point of view. That's kind of the reason to post something isn't it?

As for the "you had it coming" statement, well that was my opinion, and IMHO it was your actions that caused the situation to escalate.

Sugar coating things isn't my strong point, so I'm sorry if I offened you, it wasn't my intention.

Like I said, I was in the wrong.. next time I'll just go 10-15 over like everyone else. I'll pull over for any car that is tailgating me.. or is within the safe car distace. I'll never look ahead.. only in the rearview mirror watching for someone who *MAY* want to get ahead who things 10-30 over the speed limit is just too darn slow.
Sarcasm noted.

The point is, you just had to pull over a little and let him by. No skin of your nose, incident avoided, and you're both happy. It has nothing to due with "killing people", or the "law", or giving in to the whims of every driver on the road.

It's just simple, common courtesy, something that if there was more of, would lead to a lot less of the road rage out there.

Waxy
 
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Old Jun 3, 2003 | 08:35 AM
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While you have them trapped back there, you can stop with your left turn signal on, after the road clears, turn the signal off and go straight. If he wants to play, do it again at the next corner.

If he starts getting out of the car, haul off.
 
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Old Jun 3, 2003 | 08:56 AM
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Originally posted by FlaresideGlenn
I think "The Fast and the Furious" and its soon to be released sequel are the root cause of alot of aggressive driving.
There are just as many aggressive drivers in Fords and other brands. Aggressive driving has been around a long time...

On another note, the flame throwing in this thread needs to stop.
 
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Old Jun 3, 2003 | 01:46 PM
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maybe there is another thing to consider. the next time someone rolls up on you when your doing under the posted speed limit in the hammer lane.
just maybe that person is responding to a real emergency. how would you feel if you found out someone died in route to the hospitial because you were slowpoking around in the fast lane? if you want to drive under the speed limit its your right, but have common sense and get out of the way of faster traffic. as far as someone passing then jacking the brakes on, hit them. cops love dealing with pita's like that. just make sure you have a witness
 
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Old Jun 3, 2003 | 02:09 PM
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Maybe read the original post again.

He states he was doing 30 in a 35 zone and it was only One lane *then a 2nd lane opened up and the guy went by*.

By law the person following shouldn't tailgate & the person in front shouldn't slow down in such a way to impede traffic.

It was unfortunate the fella decided to slam on his brakes too in such a way to say: "I'm gonna screw around with you now"
There are *Lots of Guns* in the US also and this could have turned *real ugly... real soon*.

IMO,this traffic situation could have been handled in a different way

IMO,
People who need to get to a hospital should still drive within the law. They can also phone the police for assistance.

These type of threads always seem to get emotional.
 
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Old Jun 3, 2003 | 02:19 PM
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when your dealing with a life and death situation you dont have time to depend on police. most of our ems service is volunteer. it takes time to get to the vehicle so they can respond.
not only did i read the original post, but the entire post. people will act like a *** no matter what nation they are in.
its just common courtesy to get out of the way.
 
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Old Jun 4, 2003 | 05:14 PM
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There are so many aggresive drivers on the roads it makes me sick, people around here fly around curves, cut people off and dont have enough sense to look ahead. I couldnt possibly count the times i have been passed by someone in a hurry and cought up with them a a stop light 10 miles down the road. I just dont see why everyone has to drive like a moron.
People tailgate me every day and i am not a slow driver at all, just a safe one. I would say that about 60% of people driving dont deserve a license. Very rarely is there someone driving fast because of a life and death situation.
Just last month there was like a 100 car pile up on the interstate by my house that everyone blamed on fog, i have driven that interstate in very bad fog and can tell you it wasnt the fogs fault it was stupid drivers fault. WHen i am driving at a safe speed people roll right by me like they can see more than the 50 feet visable. The car doing the tailgating started the confrontation in my opinion, my friend who took a defensive drivers course was told that slowing down was the best thing to do when being tailgated. What would it hurt anyone to slow down a little bit and be a little more careful? So many people from my high school have died over the last few years because they just wont slow down and still they wont slow down
 
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Old Jun 4, 2003 | 08:23 PM
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you did nothing wrong 1970. It has always been and always will be my belief that if someone is tailgating they are not in control of their car. All that BS about driving skill, reaction time aside, every time someone is tailgating they are putting other people in jeopardy. THAT is why when they tailgate me i slow down, I'm building a cushion for both of us.
 
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