Yikes just burped up some coolant!
#47
That Pressure gauge Never really left 0psi
It should have alittle Pressure Im thinking 8-12psi would be normal
The Pressure helps with BoilOver and stuff like that you just didnt have any Pressure SO tell me how the Gauge
is tied in was it a Tee Fitting or could there be open fitting at the Degass Bottle
Im Also thinking it would be Best to Check the Pressure at Normal operating temp so that would be ECT at 190* or More
Looked like it wasnt up to temp yet IDK tell me if I am Wrong on the temp
Id try again tommoroww or something But Get the Temp UP
After temp up give it a few WOT Bursts to SEE if it spikes PSI
It should have alittle Pressure Im thinking 8-12psi would be normal
The Pressure helps with BoilOver and stuff like that you just didnt have any Pressure SO tell me how the Gauge
is tied in was it a Tee Fitting or could there be open fitting at the Degass Bottle
Im Also thinking it would be Best to Check the Pressure at Normal operating temp so that would be ECT at 190* or More
Looked like it wasnt up to temp yet IDK tell me if I am Wrong on the temp
Id try again tommoroww or something But Get the Temp UP
After temp up give it a few WOT Bursts to SEE if it spikes PSI
#48
That Pressure gauge Never really left 0psi
It should have alittle Pressure Im thinking 8-12psi would be normal
The Pressure helps with BoilOver and stuff like that you just didnt have any Pressure SO tell me how the Gauge
is tied in was it a Tee Fitting or could there be open fitting at the Degass Bottle
Im Also thinking it would be Best to Check the Pressure at Normal operating temp so that would be ECT at 190* or More
Looked like it wasnt up to temp yet IDK tell me if I am Wrong on the temp
Id try again tommoroww or something But Get the Temp UP
After temp up give it a few WOT Bursts to SEE if it spikes PSI
It should have alittle Pressure Im thinking 8-12psi would be normal
The Pressure helps with BoilOver and stuff like that you just didnt have any Pressure SO tell me how the Gauge
is tied in was it a Tee Fitting or could there be open fitting at the Degass Bottle
Im Also thinking it would be Best to Check the Pressure at Normal operating temp so that would be ECT at 190* or More
Looked like it wasnt up to temp yet IDK tell me if I am Wrong on the temp
Id try again tommoroww or something But Get the Temp UP
After temp up give it a few WOT Bursts to SEE if it spikes PSI
It was tied in with a tee fitting right before the degas bottle. In the second video it was def up to temp, my ects are usually right around 182-184. Also I did a bunch oh WOT bursts and didn't get any spikes, the gauge just stayed around that first mark.
I will try it again tomorrow and see if I get any different results. Any other suggestions or ideas?
#49
Your engine absolutely MUST be at operating temperature for the pressure reading on the degas bottle to be meaningful. Also, you must have the proper level in the degas bottle to start with - ie at the minimum (or slightly below) with a cold engine. Benny is correct - the average readings will be around 8-12 psig. Also, your cap can not leak (actually you can not have a leak anywhere in the coolant system) for the test to be meaningful.
#50
Ya I wasnt shure what Temp reading that was on the Edge of the SGII screen
If all you did was tie a Tee fitting in and the Hose dont have a Pinhole leak
If it was upto temp and you didnt get any spike at WOT those HeadGaskets are GOOD
Something just seems OFF here you should have alittle Pressure on the cooling system when running and upto Temp IDK
I would take little Pressure vs 16psi+ and Constant Puking
So far all sounds like its checking Out GREAT!!!!
If all you did was tie a Tee fitting in and the Hose dont have a Pinhole leak
If it was upto temp and you didnt get any spike at WOT those HeadGaskets are GOOD
Something just seems OFF here you should have alittle Pressure on the cooling system when running and upto Temp IDK
I would take little Pressure vs 16psi+ and Constant Puking
So far all sounds like its checking Out GREAT!!!!
#51
Mark is the Guy to ask here on this I know he has done Extensive testing on the Cooling system Pressures
The only thing that makes me wonder is you basicaly have NO Pressure on the cooling system so this makes me wonder about the Coolant bottle Cap or the Gauge itself
Is the CAP NEW??????and OEM part????
The only thing that makes me wonder is you basicaly have NO Pressure on the cooling system so this makes me wonder about the Coolant bottle Cap or the Gauge itself
Is the CAP NEW??????and OEM part????
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As for the gauge, I realize a 0 to 30 would be better, but I ended up having this gauge, I found it in my grandfathers shop. The 0 to 100 should be fine b/c if it was to spike to 16 you would be able to clearly see it.
What I am going to do is hook the gauge up and then put the cooling system test kit on it and pump it up to 16 psi to see if my gauge shows the same pressure. If it doesn't then I will find a new gauge. If it does work I will go test it again.
#59
Be aware - Some cheap gauges do not work - right out of the box - especially in the low range. Not saying yours is cheap OR bad, just an fyi,
Coolant expands with heat. If you expand liquid in a fixed volume, it compresses the vapor space and the pressure goes up.
The problem with your test (in the video above) that I see is that you appeared to have installed the gauge on a system that already had hot coolant. If so, the pressure will not rise more than a few pounds during a driving test (on a healthy engine) because you already have the fluid expanded from the heat. Let the engine cool all the way down, vent any residual pressure off of the degas bottle, then drive it until it fully gets up to temp. You will see the pressure rise then.
Have you read the thread in the Tech Folder?
Basically it says to test for a head gasket or EGR cooler leak you should:
Drive it until the engine gets fully up to temp and the coolant has fully expanded.
Then vent the degas slowly and carefully. The degas bottle has a vapor space so it is way more safe to do this than with a radiator cap on a liquid full system ........ STILL - do it slow, use a thick towel, and be safe.
Re-conduct the test, and a tight system will only show a few pounds of pressure increase. WHY??? Because the fluid has already expanded and there is nothing else adding pressure (ie no head gasket leak, and no EGR cooler leak).
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...nts-degas.html
Now, all that being said, you do need a functional water pump, accurate colant temperature sensor (EOT), working thermostat, and coolant at the proper concentration (50-60%). This is because at ZERO back pressure on the degas bottle, you have a lower coolant boiling point and it can flash boil in the EGR cooler if you have low coolant flow.
I wouldn't do this test too frequently because any flash boiling at all is going to cause stress on the EGR cooler (localized pressure rises) and also you will have deposits form (fouling). Doing this test only a few times and for short durations should not be an issue.
From your tests in the video, it does not look like you have an issue.
Coolant expands with heat. If you expand liquid in a fixed volume, it compresses the vapor space and the pressure goes up.
The problem with your test (in the video above) that I see is that you appeared to have installed the gauge on a system that already had hot coolant. If so, the pressure will not rise more than a few pounds during a driving test (on a healthy engine) because you already have the fluid expanded from the heat. Let the engine cool all the way down, vent any residual pressure off of the degas bottle, then drive it until it fully gets up to temp. You will see the pressure rise then.
Have you read the thread in the Tech Folder?
Basically it says to test for a head gasket or EGR cooler leak you should:
Drive it until the engine gets fully up to temp and the coolant has fully expanded.
Then vent the degas slowly and carefully. The degas bottle has a vapor space so it is way more safe to do this than with a radiator cap on a liquid full system ........ STILL - do it slow, use a thick towel, and be safe.
Re-conduct the test, and a tight system will only show a few pounds of pressure increase. WHY??? Because the fluid has already expanded and there is nothing else adding pressure (ie no head gasket leak, and no EGR cooler leak).
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...nts-degas.html
Now, all that being said, you do need a functional water pump, accurate colant temperature sensor (EOT), working thermostat, and coolant at the proper concentration (50-60%). This is because at ZERO back pressure on the degas bottle, you have a lower coolant boiling point and it can flash boil in the EGR cooler if you have low coolant flow.
I wouldn't do this test too frequently because any flash boiling at all is going to cause stress on the EGR cooler (localized pressure rises) and also you will have deposits form (fouling). Doing this test only a few times and for short durations should not be an issue.
From your tests in the video, it does not look like you have an issue.
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The thing is, sometimes you only see a leak when the engine gets hot and/or you hit maximum boost. Small leaks caused by weak head bolts allowing a head gasket to leak, or a small crack in a head can act that way. An EGR cooler leak is more likely (but not always) to act the way you describe (ie you see a pressure rise even at low boost).