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Old Feb 3, 2013 | 12:52 PM
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U-joint/Yoke Sizes

So I got an F350 front driveshaft to use with my D60 swap. For some reason I thought it should bolt right in, but it seems that the double cardan uses a smaller u-joint at the transfer case than the 250/TTB system did. Now I'm trying to verify that I got the right part and decide if I have a custom axle built or just swap the yoke on the xfer case.
Does any one know what series u-joints (1310, 1330, 1410, etc.) the 250 & 350 driveshafts used at each end?
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Old Feb 3, 2013 | 01:11 PM
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Try the search feature, it's amazing what it'll return you for knowledge!

And when you do search you'll find thousands of hits stating they are 1350's ...

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Old Feb 3, 2013 | 02:54 PM
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If the search had given me an answer, I wouldn't have had to start this thread. Actually, there are only a few threads that contain 1350, or 1410, etc. and frequently refer to prices. Do you believe that the joints are all 1350's?

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Old Feb 3, 2013 | 03:07 PM
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Can't you find a b a s t a r d U-joint locally?
Sorry for the spacing, but apparently this word hits the forum's nanny filters.
 
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Old Feb 3, 2013 | 03:22 PM
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That would have been my plan, but this one is at the end of the double card an and in the self centering yoke, so unfortunately not an option.
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Old Feb 3, 2013 | 04:24 PM
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Originally Posted by mpc07005
If the search had given me an answer, I wouldn't have had to start this thread. Actually, there are only a few threads that contain 1350, or 1410, etc. and frequently refer to prices.
I just searched and find it hard to believe you did considering the very first hit explicitly stated it!

Originally Posted by mpc07005
Do you believe that the joints are all 1350's
No they are not, some have used 1310 I believe.

They do make conversion joints ...

The best thing to do is measure what you need and go from there ...

1350's have a 1.188 (1-3/16) dia cap.
1310's have a 1.062 (1-1/16) dia. cap.
1310BC that is the same as a 1310 but has two 1.188 dia. caps and two 1.062 dia. caps.

I don't know why I am regurgitating this info, here look for yourself: driveshaftspecialist.com

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Old Feb 4, 2013 | 11:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Festus Hagen
considering the very first hit explicitly stated it!
I saw that post, which stated explicitly, "don't take that as gospel", which was actually in a thread about rear shafts, assuming you used the advanced search to limit it to relevant models/years.

Originally Posted by Festus Hagen
They do make conversion joints ...
Which would work, if there was no centering yoke on it (its a Double Cardan shaft).

Originally Posted by Festus Hagen
The best thing to do is measure what you need and go from there ...
So I gather your answer is; Ford used a variety of u-joints, the only way to know is to measure. That probably could have been said without implying I was too lazy to research before starting a thread. And thanks for the link, now I don't have to dig through my bookmarks to find it.

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Old Feb 4, 2013 | 04:17 PM
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I ended up using the Dana website to identify my U-joints. They have a diagram for the different driveline configurations of many vehicles, and the individual u-joints at each position. Handy
You would have to look up both your truck and the donor truck, then see what u-joint will work to bring the two together.
 
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Old Feb 4, 2013 | 04:54 PM
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It looks like mine are both 1350's, now I just need to find a shaft with them or have one made up. The shaft I received (ordered new from Carquest) is 1350-1330, so I'll have to see if they will take it back. Hopefully they will as I didn't order the wrong part (exactly) but they didn't send me the wrong part (exactly).
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Sometimes it's better to deal directly with a driveline specialist shop.
I know when I blew the output yoke on my 1356 the local APS screwed up the order and then still came up with the wrong one. (I had even left mine there!)
 
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Unfortunately, Fleetpride is the only name in the game now, and their hours and mine tend to conflict. Didn't help that the one day I had off (when I was still home) their drive shaft guy wasn't in. And of course they wanted about the same for a cut down as Carquest wanted for a new shaft. My plan now is to pop in over spring break, in between welding up an exhaust and fixing my intake manifold leak, and have them build one up.

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Fleetpride???
Man, I can't believe there isn't a shop in Bridgeport or Stratford that can hook you up.
But, maybe I'm just old and behind the times...
 
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Well, there were a ton of them ~20 years ago. I did find reference to one shop in Bridgeport somewhere, but I couldn't verify if they were still open. Bridgeport's loaded with little specialists still but most of them aren't even in the yellow pages. I did call a few shops that claimed to do driveshafts, but they just had Fleetpride make'm and tacked on their percentage. And of course there was Connecticut Driveshafts, which is Fleetpride now.

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SO sad.

To think this state was once the epicenter of manufacturing and technology.
Have you tried Kaman Bearing on Eastern Steel?
 
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Old Feb 4, 2013 | 06:35 PM
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Do they make drive shafts? I thought they are more like Granger. No doubt they could get me the parts if I need them, but that's only half the battle. My favorite thing is driving on the highway through Bridgeport and seeing all the small specialist shops. It always amazes me how many are still open.

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