Ignition, dead?
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Well, I stopped to pick up a magazine tonight and after I had jumped back in the Bronco, it wouldn't start. It turned on, as in the stereo and clock were working, but it wouldn't start. Then I realized, I couldn't turn off the stereo or clock. My ignition is just real loose. I turn it and it goes almost all the way around and nothing happens. I know it's not the battery, the solenoid or the starter. It's the ignition. My question is, how do I get the steering colume apart so I can replace the ignition? And how do I replace the ignition? I'm pretty sure I could figure out how to replace it, but I need to get in there first. So far I've taken off the first housing for the horn switches, but the steering wheel and everything is still on there... I hope it's not too hard to detach the damn thing.
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What year is the truck? The "ignition" is the module that controls the coil. The "ignition switch" is the electrical device on the side of the steering column under the dash. The "lock cylinder" is where the key goes. What has failed on your truck is the "upper actuator" that connects the lock cylinder to the ignition switch. It's tedious to fix, but not difficult. Just make sure the wheel is tilted ALL the way up before you start, and have a few good, hardened #8 & 10 fine-threaded machine screws before you start. You'll need them & a pair of wire cutters to pull the tilt pins (by screwing them in and pulling them with the cutters like the crow of a hammer). Just take it slow and pay VERY close attention to how everything fits together so you can put it back. I recommend taking LOTS of pics or even video taping yourself.
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Be careful if it's speed control equipped. Make sure you observe how the "clock spring" wiring is hooked up routed, and don't have your key turned on listening to the on board radio when you work on it....could cause a shorted in the clock spring harness when you assemble/disassemble it. My .02
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Not referring to the actuator, but to the routing of the wiring. The five (5) connectors for my '94 Bronco have thin wiring that can become damaged if not routed correctly (pinch points). Also, connecting or disconnecting power connections with the key turned on can possibly lead to "clock spring" module failure...
been there, done that.
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been there, done that.
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Okay, well how do I get the steering column apart? It is the ignition modual and the locking deal (Hell if I remember what its called already, hah). I took the part with the horn off so how do I get the steering wheel off and the rest column. Also, I don't have a lot of experience replacing things in my truck. The only thing I've done is the starter and the spark plugs. I'm sure I could do this, but it's not too hard is it? Is it difficult to take it apart? Am I going to screw anything up? If so, I'm screwed and I might have to just take it to a mechanic
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Ignition, dead?
Originally posted by steve83
What year is the truck? ... It's tedious to fix, but not difficult.
What year is the truck? ... It's tedious to fix, but not difficult.
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It's an '86 Bronco. I've determined that it's NOT to lock cylinder. I just replaced it and samedeal. So how do I get to the ignition switch and whatnot? I've been trying to use the diagram but it doesn't seem to help to get down that far. Hopefully it's not too painful to replace the ignition switch. Any ideas?
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Take off the horn cover. There will be a large nut that threads onto the column shaft; remove this nut. Mark the column shaft and wheel so that you put the wheel back on in the same position. Use a steering wheel puller (borrow one from Autozone) to remove the steering wheel. It will now look like Steve's diagram and make sense to you.
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Sounds to me like the die cast piece of crap thing in there is broken. If it's the same as my 88 bronco, I know EXACTLY how to do it. You need a steering wheel puller, a slide hammer (dent puller) along with the machine screws that the other guy mentioned to get the tilt pins out. I had never done anything like it before and it took me about 3 hours and 6 beers to finish. Give me a call @xxx-xxx-xxxx tomorrow if you have any questions. I hate typing.
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any auto parts shop should have one...I got mine from a discount tools supply house in Las Vegas for about 6 dollars though I cannot gaurantee an equal price in this day and age. Call me at the number previously posted or message me through yahoo or AIM as tom2131968. Email is tom2131@stny.rr.com
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You shouldn't use a slide hammer on the steering column. Just screw the screws into the tilt pins & pull them gently with the crow of a hammer or a pair of wire-cutters. There's another thread about this, possibly in the electrical section. Look around.