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Old Jan 17, 2013 | 05:54 PM
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Starter/header clearance??

Hello,

In my 52 ford pickup restoration, I am using a ford 302 with block hugger headers. I purchased a stock starter this evening and bolted it up, my only problem is now I can't bolt my header back on because the starter is so bulky.

Have any of you guys who run a 302 had this problem? I thought about getting a mini starter, anyone have any recommendations? I was supposed to try and start my engine soon and now this has me held up.

Please, any help is appreciated.

Thanks again,

Jon Preston
 
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Old Jan 17, 2013 | 07:27 PM
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Hi, when I put block huggers on mine I had to use a mini starter. You mite ckeck with the vendor you got yours from, to see if they sugest any special starter,Speedway sugested this one to me.
 
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Old Jan 17, 2013 | 07:27 PM
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I understand that the block-huggers require the mini-starter. I put one on my Fiero and love it. My truck (302 engine) has the regular Mustang shorties and takes an OEM sized starter.
 
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Old Jan 17, 2013 | 08:06 PM
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I think I am going to purchase a 93-95 mustang 5.0 starter or one from a 92-96 f150. Any thoughts on this?

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Old Jan 17, 2013 | 08:21 PM
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I think I am going to purchase a 93-95 mustang 5.0 starter or one from a 92-96 f150. Any thoughts on this?

Thanks again guys,

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That is exactly what you should do. I am running the 302-stang shorty headers on mine. Even if you barely clear a fullsize starter, it will still heat up and not live nearly as long as a mini. I also use that same mini on my stang. 347 with 11:1 compression. Turns it over very ez.
 
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Old Jan 17, 2013 | 08:27 PM
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Sounds awesome guys! Thank you for the much needed advice, I was about to go crazy trying to figure out what to do.

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Old Jan 18, 2013 | 04:03 AM
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I just went the mini route on my sbc after fitting up a custom ss exhaust. The header pipe essentially was in contact with a stock starter.
 
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Old Jan 18, 2013 | 05:23 PM
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So......today I bought a starter for a 96 f150 and bolted it to my bell housing and the teeth of the starter were at least an inch from meeting with my flexplate. So I thought my flexplate was on wrong, I double checked and it wasn't. I also double checked to see if the starter was for a standard shift, but it was for an automatic. So I am now going back to get another starter to see if the end with the teeth may be longer than the one I have now. I'll keep you updated. Any suggestions are still welcome. Buying an actual mini starter is my last resort.

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Old Jan 18, 2013 | 05:50 PM
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Originally Posted by 52' fordnut
So......today I bought a starter for a 96 f150 and bolted it to my bell housing and the teeth of the starter were at least an inch from meeting with my flexplate. So I thought my flexplate was on wrong, I double checked and it wasn't. I also double checked to see if the starter was for a standard shift, but it was for an automatic. So I am now going back to get another starter to see if the end with the teeth may be longer than the one I have now. I'll keep you updated. Any suggestions are still welcome. Buying an actual mini starter is my last resort.

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My 95 F100 took a mini starter from the factory. Not sure what you got going on here now. Shouldn't be much more expensive. Not avoiding header to starter clearance issues for a small cost savings is a real bad plan.
 
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Old Jan 18, 2013 | 10:11 PM
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Not avoiding header to starte clearance foor a small cost savings is a real bad plan.
I agree. Any extra air space form the headers will be worth the extra $.
 
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Old Jan 18, 2013 | 10:12 PM
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Get a mini starter, they work great. You can also get one with a heat shield at Speedway.
 
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Old Jan 18, 2013 | 10:39 PM
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Hey Jon,
We used the exact same one as Underthebridge Jim - the ministarter
from Speedway. They aren't expensive.

Ben in Austin
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Old Jan 18, 2013 | 11:00 PM
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"Hey Jon,
We used the exact same one as Underthebridge Jim - the ministarter
from Speedway. They aren't expensive.

Ben in Austin
1950 F1"

I called the folks at speedway and they recommended the
Speedway SBF Ultra Mini Starter, 1.4 kW, Auto Trans

Item #: 91067210
Price: $149.99 EA

I'm thinking this will be what I go with and crossing my fingers it will work with my c6 transmission. I appreciate all of the feedback! If it weren't for this forum of well educated and experienced friends, I wouldn't be anywhere on my Ford restoration. Thank you for all of your help!

Jon Preston
 
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Old Jan 19, 2013 | 09:01 AM
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"Hey Jon,


I called the folks at speedway and they recommended the
Speedway SBF Ultra Mini Starter, 1.4 kW, Auto Trans

Item #: 91067210
Price: $149.99 EA


John, I don't miss getting into the Fiero after getting gas or making a short stop and wondering if the heat soaked OEM sized starter would crank over or not. I shielded the Cat and wrapped a thermo-blanket around the starter with little effect. After going to the mini gear reduction starter, it spins over every time (the Cat shield is still in place, but the new starter isn't wrapped in a thermo-blanket). Hopefully, you'll never know the headaches you avoided.
 
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Old Jan 19, 2013 | 09:58 AM
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Jon,

If you think you have a fitment issue I would research that before I ordered. If you can't get to the bottom of it, I live a mile from a starter-alternator rebuilder. I know he would talk to you on the phone. If he won't mail you one, I certainly would. It would fit in a flat rate box and ship for under 12 bucks. Just an option. I'm sure the Speedway starter is real good too, I'm just not used to paying that much for a mini.
 
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