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Old Jan 7, 2013 | 04:59 AM
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It would seem that images attached within posts eventually go away, is that correct?

I was searching thru some of my old posts yesterday looking for the diagram of that 2 spd axle set-up and I found the post where I had attached it and yet it was no longer there.

If this is the case than I would like to know now since I do spend some time trying to attach good clear pictures on some of my posts so that my posts may help someone in the same pickle in the future but if they are just going to go away eventually than I need to use more caution on how I spend my time.

Maybe its because I am not a paying member and regardless the forum has the right to do anything it wants and I am no one that should consider complaining and I am not, I would just like to know. Thanks
 
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Old Jan 7, 2013 | 06:28 AM
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I dunno why but for me in my net forums history if i upload to photobucket then use the yellowish mountain to post the image address in a post they stay because the site isnt hosting the data. Just my theory.
 
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Old Jan 7, 2013 | 07:36 AM
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That's a very good question as I like to pepper my posts with pictures to 'splain what I'm doing or saying. But, if they are going away........... I'll go look at some of my posts.
 
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Old Jan 7, 2013 | 08:00 AM
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The image I am referring to if I remember correctly was not an up-loaded photo bucket image, if I remember right I was somehow able to copy and paste an image here which I normally cannot do I guess because I am not a paying member.

Maybe that is where the difference is although I have been going thru MANY old posts made by other users and I sporadically have found the same thing, they mention a picture below and yet there is nothing there.

Ok well maybe its just how they are loaded and maybe photobucket will be safe, thanks

Just for the heck of it and maybe someone in the know would/might answer the post I made was here https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...-rear-end.html and it was number 15 all the way to the bottom, image was there, now gone
 
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Old Jan 7, 2013 | 08:07 AM
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Pbucket allows you to lock out your account. But for just pics of trucks n parts its easy and free. If you load a image here the site servers have to host it and it takes up their space more than posts and such. Id say the probably have a limited amount of time they host images before the system automatically suspends hosting it.
 
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Old Jan 7, 2013 | 08:15 AM
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Originally Posted by 1930 Dodge
It would seem that images attached within posts eventually go away, is that correct?

I was searching thru some of my old posts yesterday looking for the diagram of that 2 spd axle set-up and I found the post where I had attached it and yet it was no longer there.

If this is the case than I would like to know now since I do spend some time trying to attach good clear pictures on some of my posts so that my posts may help someone in the same pickle in the future but if they are just going to go away eventually than I need to use more caution on how I spend my time.

Maybe its because I am not a paying member and regardless the forum has the right to do anything it wants and I am no one that should consider complaining and I am not, I would just like to know. Thanks
It was my understanding that you can't attach images directly.
Give a link to one that does not work...

I see you already used Photobucket in some of your posts.
You must keep your Photobucket account active AND any linked photos must stay where they are at in Photobucket. If not they wont display here. Also if the Photobucket site goes down then no linked images will work temporarily.

I like Image Shack because you can upload images in actual size. I was having problem with Photobucket because all images were re-sized and lost quality. Works OK for photos but images or drawings with text became unreadable. I think Photobucket recently changed their format and now has option to upload and keep actual size but I have not tried it.

Finally my personal preference is to post only the direct links and not the image link so people only see the image if they click on the link.
 
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Old Jan 7, 2013 | 08:22 AM
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Paying customers, aka supporters, can attach directly. When you are in the advanced editor there is a button called Manage Attachments and that lets you include several different types of file, including jpg, psd, doc, pdf, and xls. That is much easier than having to load the file someplace else, copying the link/URL, and pasting it into a popup.

However, the attached files are just that - attached at the end of the post. So you can't comment about them with words right next to the file. And, while jpg's get displayed, things like pdf's just have a link that someone has to click to see.
 
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Old Jan 7, 2013 | 09:50 AM
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Originally Posted by 1930 Dodge
It would seem that images attached within posts eventually go away, is that correct?
That is incorrect and is not true at all. Barring system-upgrade screw-ups (don't start, Gary) attachments will live here forever.

Files hosted on other sites (photobucket, imageshack, whatever) need to stay where they are in order for them to show up here. IOW if something is moved or deleted on the hosting site, it will no longer be displayed here.

Originally Posted by 1930 Dodge
I was searching thru some of my old posts yesterday looking for the diagram of that 2 spd axle set-up and I found the post where I had attached it and yet it was no longer there.
Originally Posted by 1930 Dodge
The image I am referring to if I remember correctly was not an up-loaded photo bucket image, if I remember right I was somehow able to copy and paste an image here which I normally cannot do I guess because I am not a paying member.
The only thing you cannot do as a non-paying member is upload attachments to your posts, but you can still reference files hosted elsewhere.

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Maybe that is where the difference is although I have been going thru MANY old posts made by other users and I sporadically have found the same thing, they mention a picture below and yet there is nothing there.
People often delete their pictures from their image hosts once their questions have been answered (they have no respect for archives) ; image hosts go out of business or otherwise change; network problems can prevent access to a hosting server.

There are many possible reasons why an image may not show up here, those are only some of them.

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Ok well maybe its just how they are loaded and maybe photobucket will be safe, thanks

Just for the heck of it and maybe someone in the know would/might answer the post I made was here https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...-rear-end.html and it was number 15 all the way to the bottom, image was there, now gone
OK, here is what happened, and how you can go see this for yourself.

Go to your post, click the EDIT or QUOTE button.

That gives you an editor window to work in.

In the top-right of that window (except if you're using Chrome as your browser, in which case you're on your own) is a button with a little capital A and a much bigger capital A.

That button is a toggle, and switches the display in the main pane from Rendered Mode to Edit Mode.





Using Edit Mode, I see that your image was sourced from auto-wiring-diagram.com. Your image was stored in a location called:

/wp-content/uploads/2012/07

with a file name of:

electric-shift-2-speed-rear-axle-wiring-diagram-for-1957-1959-studebaker-truck.jpg

as shown here:





This tells me they use WordPress software as a content-management solution, you uploaded your image in July of 2012 (last summer) and it was stored in a directory (folder) named uploads.






So, I telnetted to their Web server, and tried to GET that image.

It responded with a 302 Redirect and sends browsers to the home page of the web site:







My guess is that they cleaned out their uploads directory and deleted your picture, that means it will no longer show up on any web forum posts you've posted it on.



Hope this all makes sense.......
 
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Old Jan 7, 2013 | 09:59 AM
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Originally Posted by ctubutis
That is incorrect and is not true at all. Barring system-upgrade screw-ups (don't start, Gary) attachments will live here forever.

Files hosted on other sites (photobucket, imageshack, whatever) need to stay where they are in order for them to show up here. IOW if something is moved or deleted on the hosting site, it will no longer be displayed here.




The only thing you cannot do as a non-paying member is upload attachments to your posts, but you can still reference files hosted elsewhere.


People often delete their pictures from their image hosts once their questions have been answered (they have no respect for archives) ; image hosts go out of business or otherwise change; network problems can prevent access to a hosting server.

There are many possible reasons why an image may not show up here, those are only some of them.



OK, here is what happened, and how you can go see this for yourself.

Go to your post, click the EDIT or QUOTE button.

That gives you an editor window to work in.

In the top-right of that window (except if you're using Chrome as your browser, in which case you're on your own) is a button with a little capital A and a much bigger capital A.

That button is a toggle, and switches the display in the main pane from Rendered Mode to Edit Mode.





Using Edit Mode, I see that your image was sourced from auto-wiring-diagram.com. Your image was stored in a location called:

/wp-content/uploads/2012/07

with a file name of:

electric-shift-2-speed-rear-axle-wiring-diagram-for-1957-1959-studebaker-truck.jpg

as shown here:





This tells me they use WordPress software as a content-management solution, you uploaded your image in July of 2012 (last summer) and it was stored in a directory (folder) named uploads.






So, I telnetted to their Web server, and tried to GET that image.

It responded with a 302 Redirect and sends browsers to the home page of the web site:







My guess is that they cleaned out their uploads directory and deleted your picture, that means it will no longer show up on any web forum posts you've posted it on.



Hope this all makes sense.......
It does all very much, thanks for the explanation, one thing that I rely on is archived material and for me it is my way of contributing simply because I cant afford to contribute monetarily to every web-site I am a part of so I do not contribute to any ( monetarily ) thanks again, very clear
 
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Chris - Reps to you, although I'm still in jail re you on that. Very well explained. And, that fits with what I've found as I did find some of my posts that are missing the pictures. BUT, I had put that picture in my photos here on FTE (I'd say that in the right way but when I clicked on User CP I got ........ wait for it ..... SERVER ERROR. But, I'm not going there.) And, I think I must have deleted that picture when I was outta room. Other than that it looks like all my pictures are still where they should be.
 
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Old Jan 7, 2013 | 11:03 AM
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Thanks for the kudos, guys.

Attachments disappeared once that I'm aware of (due to a server-upgrade mishap), this was before I had ever joined FTE (and before IB owned it) but has been discussed in the Mods forum. You can still find old posts in the archives from ~10 years ago that don't have attachments anymore.

As for the slowness and server errors, IB is WELL aware of it.

If you haven't noticed, the double-posting of images went away, that issue lasted for ~24 hours and was the result of a plugin they had added that was doing exactly as it was supposed to do - copy remote images to the local server and display them from there - but they were displayed twice as a result.
 
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Old Jan 7, 2013 | 11:10 AM
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Originally Posted by ctubutis
As for the slowness and server errors, IB is WELL aware of it.
Being well aware of it and doing something about it are two different things. The lack of statement as to understanding the frustration for the users and the tarnishing of the whole FTE image says volumes to me. Popping in to make the infrequent comment on the Oklahoma BS thread vs making a statement to the users about the problems and what is being done about it is the difference between someone hiding behind the system and a real leader.

Edit: Chris, you know that is not directed at you. I appreciate what you've been able to share, but.......
 

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This is from ~20 minutes ago:

Originally Posted by Robb M.
We have had a massive storage device failure, and currently FTE is running on the backup DB. Hope to get things back to normal later on today guys.
 
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Old Jan 7, 2013 | 12:27 PM
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Originally Posted by ctubutis
This is from ~20 minutes ago:
Ouch! Depending on the RAID configuration that can be a big problem. Thanks for sharing that. It is a lot easier to be patient if you know someone is working the issue. But, the ad hoc report when someone pushes just says management isn't properly set up to provide communication to the users. Goes back to the leadership point - or the lack thereof.
 
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Old Jan 8, 2013 | 05:06 AM
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Originally Posted by ctubutis
That is incorrect and is not true at all. Barring system-upgrade screw-ups (don't start, Gary) attachments will live here forever.

Files hosted on other sites (photobucket, imageshack, whatever) need to stay where they are in order for them to show up here. IOW if something is moved or deleted on the hosting site, it will no longer be displayed here.




The only thing you cannot do as a non-paying member is upload attachments to your posts, but you can still reference files hosted elsewhere.


People often delete their pictures from their image hosts once their questions have been answered (they have no respect for archives) ; image hosts go out of business or otherwise change; network problems can prevent access to a hosting server.

There are many possible reasons why an image may not show up here, those are only some of them.



OK, here is what happened, and how you can go see this for yourself.

Go to your post, click the EDIT or QUOTE button.

That gives you an editor window to work in.

In the top-right of that window (except if you're using Chrome as your browser, in which case you're on your own) is a button with a little capital A and a much bigger capital A.

That button is a toggle, and switches the display in the main pane from Rendered Mode to Edit Mode.





Using Edit Mode, I see that your image was sourced from auto-wiring-diagram.com. Your image was stored in a location called:

/wp-content/uploads/2012/07

with a file name of:

electric-shift-2-speed-rear-axle-wiring-diagram-for-1957-1959-studebaker-truck.jpg

as shown here:





This tells me they use WordPress software as a content-management solution, you uploaded your image in July of 2012 (last summer) and it was stored in a directory (folder) named uploads.






So, I telnetted to their Web server, and tried to GET that image.

It responded with a 302 Redirect and sends browsers to the home page of the web site:







My guess is that they cleaned out their uploads directory and deleted your picture, that means it will no longer show up on any web forum posts you've posted it on.



Hope this all makes sense.......
I did not know that you were a moderator on the large trucks forum as well, is there any chance you could PLEASE remove post # 44 of this topic https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/8...d-f-7-a-3.html

Without getting into long details ( too many disturbed people and I want what little privacy I still have ) it bugs me that this is on the internet.

I never should have given out this info although I am sure that it will not be long before it is public info anyway I guess.

If you would like to completely eliminate that username and its easier than by all means go for it.

I was having a VERY difficult time years ago with this site as far as posting/logging on, it turned out the majority of my problem was my own stubbornness not to up-date my computer.

Thanks for any help.

BTW I CANNOT log in and edit the info, I have tried that already, I guess the post is too old, there is no option that I see to edit the post.

I think it also strange that post # 33 just above this used to also carry my name address and phone #, someone was kind enough to remove that and yet when I do a google search using my name address and phone # it still shows up in googles cache as being within that post on this forum.

I wish that google would update that so it reflects what is actually displayed within this forum which is no information concerning my personal identity.
 
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