removing front end
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removing front end
finally starting to put parts together so maybe i can drive it by spring. its a 49 f3. its getting a 302 with c4 want to get the motor and trans in for mock up. would it be easier to remove the hole front end or slid the motor/trans in. if i pull the front end id like to remove it as one piece minus the hood. wanting the location on the bolts that need to be removed.
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It is easier to remove the front end as a unit. I am sure the more knowledgeble will chime in, but I believe you need to remove:
Bolts holding the front fender to the running boards
Inner fender bolts - one at the top at the firewall, and one on the frame near the firewall
Radiator support bolts to front crossmember
Bolts holding the front fender to the running boards
Inner fender bolts - one at the top at the firewall, and one on the frame near the firewall
Radiator support bolts to front crossmember
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dmack nailed it. The front clips come off pretty easy. The hardest part is the wiring.
As he mentioned there are two main bolts directly under the radiator.
Running board to fender bolts (maybe 3 per side?)
The inner fender bolts to the frame (if they havent already been torn loose)
Inner fender to cab.
Radiator hoses.
Bobby
As he mentioned there are two main bolts directly under the radiator.
Running board to fender bolts (maybe 3 per side?)
The inner fender bolts to the frame (if they havent already been torn loose)
Inner fender to cab.
Radiator hoses.
Bobby
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dmack nailed it. The front clips come off pretty easy. The hardest part is the wiring.
As he mentioned there are two main bolts directly under the radiator.
Running board to fender bolts (maybe 3 per side?)
The inner fender bolts to the frame (if they havent already been torn loose)
Inner fender to cab.
Radiator hoses.
Bobby
As he mentioned there are two main bolts directly under the radiator.
Running board to fender bolts (maybe 3 per side?)
The inner fender bolts to the frame (if they havent already been torn loose)
Inner fender to cab.
Radiator hoses.
Bobby
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Ross did you find out about the cross brace the hard way ?
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Hey Pete,
someone blew your doors off! I finally got around to replacing my hinge pins. I've been putting it off because I had read a lot on hear about how much of a pain it was. It turned out to be fairly easy. I drilled down through the top of the pins (the knurled section) slowly going larger until I could until I was close to the right diameter, then a couple small taps and the pins fell right out. I had both done within a half hour. Since I had planned all afternoon to mess with them that left me tons of time to sit in garage having a frosty beverage and "planning" what to do next....lol
Bobby
someone blew your doors off! I finally got around to replacing my hinge pins. I've been putting it off because I had read a lot on hear about how much of a pain it was. It turned out to be fairly easy. I drilled down through the top of the pins (the knurled section) slowly going larger until I could until I was close to the right diameter, then a couple small taps and the pins fell right out. I had both done within a half hour. Since I had planned all afternoon to mess with them that left me tons of time to sit in garage having a frosty beverage and "planning" what to do next....lol
Bobby
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Hey Pete,
someone blew your doors off! I finally got around to replacing my hinge pins. I've been putting it off because I had read a lot on hear about how much of a pain it was. It turned out to be fairly easy. I drilled down through the top of the pins (the knurled section) slowly going larger until I could until I was close to the right diameter, then a couple small taps and the pins fell right out. I had both done within a half hour. Since I had planned all afternoon to mess with them that left me tons of time to sit in garage having a frosty beverage and "planning" what to do next....lol
Bobby
someone blew your doors off! I finally got around to replacing my hinge pins. I've been putting it off because I had read a lot on hear about how much of a pain it was. It turned out to be fairly easy. I drilled down through the top of the pins (the knurled section) slowly going larger until I could until I was close to the right diameter, then a couple small taps and the pins fell right out. I had both done within a half hour. Since I had planned all afternoon to mess with them that left me tons of time to sit in garage having a frosty beverage and "planning" what to do next....lol
Bobby
Yeah, I should have put zippers on the doors. After I got 'em off once I found it a lot of fun taking them off and putting them back on. This time it was to install new lower cowl panels. I discovered more rust than I thought when I removed the fenders after "somebody" on here said how easy they were to remove. That has been the story with this truck all along, it is what you find AFTER you "easily" remove something. It has been most educational.That sounds like a great solution to the hinge pins. Did you have a drill with a smaller chuck for the lowers?
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LOL.....everytime I start to do something I see tons of other things that need to be done "while I'm in there".....
I think I used my old Dewalt cordless. I do remember that on one of them I didn't get my initial hole directly in the center of the pin. On that one I just drilled a large as I could without drilling into the hinge itself. Then I used a chisel and punch to fold the edges inward and was able to get it out without too many hassles
Bobby
I think I used my old Dewalt cordless. I do remember that on one of them I didn't get my initial hole directly in the center of the pin. On that one I just drilled a large as I could without drilling into the hinge itself. Then I used a chisel and punch to fold the edges inward and was able to get it out without too many hassles
Bobby
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LOL.....everytime I start to do something I see tons of other things that need to be done "while I'm in there".....
I think I used my old Dewalt cordless. I do remember that on one of them I didn't get my initial hole directly in the center of the pin. On that one I just drilled a large as I could without drilling into the hinge itself. Then I used a chisel and punch to fold the edges inward and was able to get it out without too many hassles
Bobby
I think I used my old Dewalt cordless. I do remember that on one of them I didn't get my initial hole directly in the center of the pin. On that one I just drilled a large as I could without drilling into the hinge itself. Then I used a chisel and punch to fold the edges inward and was able to get it out without too many hassles
Bobby
Actually I'm glad that I took the hinges off because things were pretty rusty behind them. When I got the cowl panels cut out it was a lot easier to clean up, reinforce, re-weld and paint. The right side was particularly bad. I didn't quite get finished before winter seriously set in as you can see. https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1213548-removing-front-end.html#post12685651
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If you look at the crossmember below the radiator, you'll see two sets of mounting holes for the bolts on the bottom of the radiator support that go through those springs. The trucks with the flathead 8's used the holes closer to the engine. The trucks with the flathead 6's used the holes closer to the front bumper. As I recall, there are three long bolts that hold the inner fender to the radiator support on each side. You'll see two different sets of bolt holes in the inner fenders as well for attachment to the radiator support (again, the rear ones are for the flathead 8, the forward ones are for the flat 6 configuration).
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I didn't take any pictures of that as things are pretty well laid out in the attached diagram. I still have the fenders off so I can take some more pictures if you need them. Just let me know.
Last edited by petemcl; May 8, 2013 at 03:03 PM. Reason: Suddenly the pictures started to show up