Not all around, but my drivers rear sounds like it's rubbing and the rotor looks like something has dug into it slightly. Im just going to replace the rotor, the other side looks good and the fronts are some type of aftermarket slotted rotors that look good also. Considering replacing pads all around though rather than just the rear driver. Alot of you guys like the hawk lts pads from a few threads I saw. Should I opt for those? I'll try to get a pic of my front rotors to see if anyone can identify them.

 

just buy the brake motive brake kit of ebay .. replace everything for under $300 and you will be happy

 

power slot cryo treated rotors! you will not be sorry.

 

X2 for brakemotive. I was under $250 for all four wheels.

 

Link to ebay? I don't mind spending that to replace everything. I would like better braking.

Ak, how much are those

 

I went powerslot cryo with Hawk pads and I dont event think about my rotors/brakes. Every other product, I never thought of anything else while stopping...because I didnt.

Never tried Brakemotive...

 

How much are these powerslot rotors?

 

There are standard Powerslots, and cryo treated Powerslots.

Cryo treated rotors (Powerslots, ART, etc) aren't cheap. But they are excellent rotors.

Google search cryo treated Powerslots and sift through the results to find the cheapest place.

Stewart

 

With regards to rotors, I have previously run Brembo OEM replacement rotors that are cryogenically treated at Diversified Cryogenics, making them almost as hard as stainless steel- Applied Rotor Technology in California provides the same product- but I would not rely on their delivery as it is essentially a 1 person shop owned/run by a Boeing engineer who works back east, travels alot and works at ART on weekends the last of my phone conversations with him). Unfortunately, Brembo, Powerslot, Raybestos, Bendix, Hawk, Powerslot, etc. are all purchasing their rotors from the same foundary in China (with the exception of the $300 each composite high end units for Ferrari, Porsche, etc).

Both companies (DC & ART) purchase the highest grade rotors made, laser mic them for quality, scrap the ones that are out of spec and cryogenically treat the good ones which are now as strong as stainless. They will also slot and cross drill the rotors for you. DC's service, price and quality are excellent as well.

For street use, slotted/drilled rotors are just “cheese-graters” for the brake pads IMHO, because unless you are involved in true racing conditions, the brake linings do not produce the gases which slotted/drilled rotors are designed to relive. In some cases, brake testing indicated reduce brake efficiency in street-based operations using slotted/drilled rotors when equal comparisons were made. The staff can speak to you as well regarding those options, but I am very satisfied with the performance & wear of these products.

With regards to brakes & brake linings in general,
Ceramics: They are good but do not develop any more friction than good quality OEM linings
Performance Friction & Hawk: Good braking, increased friction but very dirty compared to OEM- Hawk & EBC will no longer release their CE spec's...basically you are buying blind IMHO (ie. running off their PR materials and not engineering specs)

Wagner & Raybestos: a line of products that is 100% marketing and mfg from very low quality/inexpensive and/or imported products with the mfg's not providing any back-up or support on product failures (and I mean real ugly spontaneous, catestropihic failures)

VelveTouch lining- Used for many decades and was the original lining used in all Shelby Mustangs in the 60’s (I personally have used the Velvetouch lining since 1960’s until brake lining production ceased in 1986), then switched to Carbo. Wellman has been the builder of braking linings for all of the Formula 1 race teams for more than 30 years and VT is now available again but in limited applications.

CarboTech Engineering lining, which I have used for about 25+ years and been very happy on multiple full size (V8) cars and trucks. This particular lining has a high friction co-efficient, excellent pedal feel, wears (typically 50,000 to 75,000 miles before replacement is required) and produces less dust than OEM linings.

I highly recommend speaking to them by phone for linings that would be best for your application. Fyi- braking co-efficient is what identifies the bite rating of the linings- you want the CE to be no less than that of the OEM.....this will drive most e-base distributors & big box store "experts" right out of their mind because they either cannot verify this info or you will find the spec is less than oem. IMHO, i would look for a CE that is .49 or greater.

 

here ya go .... brakemotive ford excursion | eBay

 

If you want the best, do what Beechkid is recommending.

 

Clay at riffraffdiesel sells the power slot rotors and the hawk and EBC pads and hes a sponsor on here...just saying

 

Can I ask what would be a good upgrade for towing? I wont be covering many miles, probably only about 5000 miles a year, so I'm not too worried about rotors that say they last 3 times others etc, I just want good stopping power, and not cheap rubbish as I want to change all 4 rotors and pads and then leave them to do their job - I have a good brake controller and really good trailer brakes (all 4 trailer tires will lock if I put the BC on full) but I want piece of mind knowing that the Ex has good brakes - and I'll be fitting bigger rims/tires

I looked at DC's site and they look good, I'm just not sure if I'd benefit as I wont cover the miles?

 

My post above is very good rotors and pads. Check out riffraffdiesel. He has what you need.

 

It is best if you speak directly with the brake mfg....they will simply discuss with you your specific needs, driving styles, area of the country you live, road conditions, etc. and from there will recommend what linings & rotors are best suited for your application. Then you won't have any worry's/concerns about over/under spending on the components/parts you need. DC's website is really set up for general information, Bill (at DC) is an ol'timer and been around a long time.....understands very much operational conditions with brakes and what would be best for you specific. Carbo is much the same way.