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Old Dec 31, 2012 | 03:25 PM
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Lift Kit Installation...

I'm needing some guidance here.

I've been pricing out different kits and the cost of installation at local shops here, and it seems that $800 seems normal to instal a lift.

I can do a lot with $800.

I'm pretty handy with a wrench but I've never worked on something this big. My background is sports cars and wrenching on smaller vehicles. I know I don't have a jack or stands sturdy enough to hold up the Ex.

For those that have done an instal themselves, would you do it again or would you let someone else deal with the hassle? Any advise or write ups to point me to so I know what I'm getting into?

Thanks in advance!
 
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Old Dec 31, 2012 | 03:50 PM
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Old Dec 31, 2012 | 06:38 PM
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$800 seems about right, when I had my Ex lifted, it took 2 guys about 2 days to install Bilsteins all the way around, add a leafs to the spring packs, etc. I am in the NY area
 
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Old Dec 31, 2012 | 07:26 PM
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I did procomp springs for a 4" lift. It took me and my neighbor about 9 hours. That included two trips to a local spring shop to have ubolts made to fit. I have little to no experience working on any vehicle. Doing the work myself was the only way to make it affordable. I would certainly do it again. I would recommend having two good floor jacks and two good (probably at least 6 ton) jack stands. The 6 ton jack stands have the strength and height to make the job easier. Also recommend some kind of impact gun to break bolts loose. I bought a dewalt 1/2" electric impact gun. It was worth it. Now its another tool for my tool box and cost less than having someone else do the work.

Best of all is the satisfaction of seeing the results of your own hard work.
 
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Old Dec 31, 2012 | 07:50 PM
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Originally Posted by volthause
I'm needing some guidance here.

I've been pricing out different kits and the cost of installation at local shops here, and it seems that $800 seems normal to instal a lift.

I can do a lot with $800.

I'm pretty handy with a wrench but I've never worked on something this big. My background is sports cars and wrenching on smaller vehicles. I know I don't have a jack or stands sturdy enough to hold up the Ex.

For those that have done an instal themselves, would you do it again or would you let someone else deal with the hassle? Any advise or write ups to point me to so I know what I'm getting into?

Thanks in advance!
Yes I would do it again....

You need some BIG tools. 400 Ft Lbs required for the track bar. (fortunately I have a friend who used to be contractor supporting Army helicopter maintenance.... 5' long torque wrench)

180lbs for some of the shackle bolts.

165 per lug nut

Two floor jacks is NOT overkill.

A helper is a must... at least for my old *** it was!
 
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Old Dec 31, 2012 | 08:29 PM
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4wheel parts on line. My lift was $800 with steering stabilizer and they gave me a 35% off installation coupon. Total install was like $380 to $400
 
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Old Jan 1, 2013 | 07:46 AM
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Great responses so far, thanks so much.

400 ft lbs on the track bar bolts definitely sounds like it would be problematic.

The idea of taking the truck somewhere and leaving it, then coming back to a lifted truck is very alluring. My biggest problem is trust. I am constantly let down by the sub par work that has been done on my vehicles in the past. I'm sure the job is worth every penny of $800 but I'm worried that I will be disappointed in the lack of attention to detail that comes from someone else working on my truck.
 
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Old Jan 1, 2013 | 09:07 AM
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4wheelparts

this is a longtime Nationwide company.I am sure there wouldbe one near you.

Lift Kit-Suspension
All they do is installation for 4X4's, trucks etc.

$150 bucks off all Pro Comp lift kits. shipping to your local store is free and once you purchase you get a 25-35% off installation. plus warranty on installation work.


I have purchase parts from them for years and they are the fastest most professional 4 wheeldrive parts and shop i have dealt with. Install takes one day.
 
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Old Jan 1, 2013 | 10:24 AM
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Originally Posted by volthause
Great responses so far, thanks so much.

400 ft lbs on the track bar bolts definitely sounds like it would be problematic.

The idea of taking the truck somewhere and leaving it, then coming back to a lifted truck is very alluring. My biggest problem is trust. I am constantly let down by the sub par work that has been done on my vehicles in the past. I'm sure the job is worth every penny of $800 but I'm worried that I will be disappointed in the lack of attention to detail that comes from someone else working on my truck.
For these lift kits what parts are you adding? If you are staying with the stock springs you are building on a very weak foundation IMHO.
 
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Old Jan 1, 2013 | 10:52 AM
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For these lift kits what parts are you adding? If you are staying with the stock springs you are building on a very weak foundation IMHO.
I was going to go with a 6" BDS lift.
 
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Old Jan 1, 2013 | 10:58 AM
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Originally Posted by $$$=SPEED
this is a longtime Nationwide company.I am sure there wouldbe one near you.

Lift Kit-Suspension
All they do is installation for 4X4's, trucks etc.

$150 bucks off all Pro Comp lift kits. shipping to your local store is free and once you purchase you get a 25-35% off installation. plus warranty on installation work.


I have purchase parts from them for years and they are the fastest most professional 4 wheeldrive parts and shop i have dealt with. Install takes one day.
I have heard good things and bad things about 4 wheel parts service. It never seems middle of the road though. The goods are always great and the bads are always catastrophic.

Not sure if I want to roll the dice on that gamble.

There is a 4 wheel parts right near me though.
 
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Old Jan 1, 2013 | 01:00 PM
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Originally Posted by volthause
I was going to go with a 6" BDS lift.
Just. Make sure what ever lift you choose is a total spring replacement. Don't get conned into someone selling you a lift that just adds blocks to the stock Excursion springs. The whole idea of lifting or using V's and B's is to get rid of the stock Excursion springs all together.

I did my springs on my 05 Ex back in 05' and I did it alone in my driveway with one jack and four jack stands... When I do 00 soon, will have my 16 yo, two jacks and eight jack stands.... If you do it yourself, make sure you have an impact wrench, and take the front bumper off. It will make the front springs so much easier!

Good luck!

Garry in Alaska
 
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Old Jan 1, 2013 | 02:53 PM
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Originally Posted by garryk6
Just. Make sure what ever lift you choose is a total spring replacement. Don't get conned into someone selling you a lift that just adds blocks to the stock Excursion springs. The whole idea of lifting or using V's and B's is to get rid of the stock Excursion springs all together.
This is where I am at a loss. I've seen arguments both ways, as using the stock springs with add-a-leaf, you keep the "slapper bars" that help fight axle wrap, where as with new, taller springs they don't have the rigidity to fight axle wrap.

Then the other side of the argument is pretty much the exact opposite, saying that the blocks additional leverage on the spring create more axle wrap.

Any insights into this?

I did my springs on my 05 Ex back in 05' and I did it alone in my driveway with one jack and four jack stands... When I do 00 soon, will have my 16 yo, two jacks and eight jack stands.... If you do it yourself, make sure you have an impact wrench, and take the front bumper off. It will make the front springs so much easier!

Good luck!

Garry in Alaska
I don't have a 16 yo for additional labor unfortunately. I also don't have a driveway to work in, I would have to do it behind the building where I work. Not ideal, but at least I would have access to air and milling machines.
 
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Old Jan 1, 2013 | 03:07 PM
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4wheel parts on line. My lift was $800 with steering stabilizer and they gave me a 35% off installation coupon. Total install was like $380 to $400
I'm in the bad experience category. Where I am these folks are the rudest, don't give a darn about your truck people around. Just my two cents.

Originally Posted by volthause
Great responses so far, thanks so much.

400 ft lbs on the track bar bolts definitely sounds like it would be problematic.

The idea of taking the truck somewhere and leaving it, then coming back to a lifted truck is very alluring. My biggest problem is trust. I am constantly let down by the sub par work that has been done on my vehicles in the past. I'm sure the job is worth every penny of $800 but I'm worried that I will be disappointed in the lack of attention to detail that comes from someone else working on my truck.
I had all new axles and springs installed on my ex and if I had it to over again I would beg borrow and plead for the help and tools needed to do it myself and I'm a 100 lb female. So many things that "others" did half way because ultimately they don't care about my truck. So if I can offer any advice, it's find a way to do this yourself. Call in some favors for the tools you need, rent them, borrow them, even buy them. In the long run you will save money even if you have to spend more to get the proper tools. As an example I had all 5 of my driveline u-joints replaced during the above mentioned work which was done back in July, by December I had replaced 3 of those 5 joints because they were not installed correctly. I have spent over $500 fixing work that others didn't do correctly. So again if I had it to do over, I'd take that $500 and get the proper tools, stands, whatever and do it my da*n self!
 
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Old Jan 1, 2013 | 03:15 PM
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The whole reason Ford put the Slapper bars on the excursions, was that they did not build the springs stiff enough to keep them from wrapping. Most lift kit springs are stiff enough to not require added Slapper bars etc. If you are using F350 springs they don't need slappers either, even with factory 4inch blocks. If going more than factory blocks, then the way to control spring wrap is not with Slapper bars, but with traction bars.
Please don't let anyone convince you to add blocks to the stock excursion springs. You will be very unhappy with the results.

Good luck!

Garry
 
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