5 ton axle help
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5 ton axle help
Trying to figure out what I can about these axles I bought for 700$ last week. They definately are bigger than 2.5tons or atleast all I've seen. I don't have much experience with anything but solid axle d60, SA d44 and the HD44.
Here's the pics:
Ford Truck Enthusiasts Forums - parkerparkerm's Album: Axles
I'm on my phone so I can't post individual pics, if someone is nice could they post individuals for me?(yes I know how but I physically can't).
Mainly what I want to know- is the front axle an air brake or a brake like on a pickup? I know the rears are air brakes. At these really 5 tons? And can y divorced 205 hold up to these for awhile LOL
Here's the pics:
Ford Truck Enthusiasts Forums - parkerparkerm's Album: Axles
I'm on my phone so I can't post individual pics, if someone is nice could they post individuals for me?(yes I know how but I physically can't).
Mainly what I want to know- is the front axle an air brake or a brake like on a pickup? I know the rears are air brakes. At these really 5 tons? And can y divorced 205 hold up to these for awhile LOL
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Can a divorced 205 hold up to them but the guy I'm talking about trading with says he has a 205 on his truck and it hasn't broke yet. Really all that's left is I wunna know if these are really 5 tons
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I looked at your pics again. Pic 3 has an Eaton plate that, I think, says "10,000 lbs". That would be 5 tons. But that is including the vehicle weight on the axle, so the truck they came from may or may not have a net payload of 10,000 lbs.
As for the brakes, I looked again at the rear axle, and a couple other pics. You do not have air brakes. You have "Lucas Girling" hydraulic brakes. From the looks of the rust, perhaps we should say you had Lucas Girling brakes.
Are you putting these under a pickup? With extremely large tires?
Lots about the 205 here:
NP205 or 2.5 ton Transfercase
The 205 is seen as pretty strong, but like anything, you can break it.
As for the brakes, I looked again at the rear axle, and a couple other pics. You do not have air brakes. You have "Lucas Girling" hydraulic brakes. From the looks of the rust, perhaps we should say you had Lucas Girling brakes.
Are you putting these under a pickup? With extremely large tires?
Lots about the 205 here:
NP205 or 2.5 ton Transfercase
The 205 is seen as pretty strong, but like anything, you can break it.
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This is a "5 ton" Rockwell:
Red Barn Customs, 2.5 Ton Rockwell Axles, Mud Boggers, CNC Plasma Cut, Yale Mich
These are "2.5 ton" Rockwells:
Red Barn Customs, 2.5 Ton Rockwell Axles, Mud Boggers, CNC Plasma Cut, Yale Mich
Can you read the model number and all the other info on those plates? I can't read it from the pics.
Red Barn Customs, 2.5 Ton Rockwell Axles, Mud Boggers, CNC Plasma Cut, Yale Mich
These are "2.5 ton" Rockwells:
Red Barn Customs, 2.5 Ton Rockwell Axles, Mud Boggers, CNC Plasma Cut, Yale Mich
Can you read the model number and all the other info on those plates? I can't read it from the pics.
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These are face loaders and the rock wells you showed are top loaders, so I can't really compare them. What's the difference in hydraulic and air brakes? And yes these would be going under. Pickup, a pickup not meant for pavement anymore with big tires, yes.
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Air vs. hydraulic: Air brakes use air, hydraulic brakes use fluid. Completely different systems with virtually no interchange at all.
The brakes on those axles look to be beyond repair due to rust and other damage. Lucas Girling brakes are a bit expensive to work on iirc based on other posts. You will need a hydraulic set up with power assist of some kind.
As for top vs. front loading axles, there is a reason people use the top loading axles, and that is driveline angle. With front loaded diffs, you are either going to have to tilt the differentials, or have extreme u-joint killing drive shaft angles.
As for what exactly those are, please post all the info off the plates.
Does it matter if they are "5 ton"????
The brakes on those axles look to be beyond repair due to rust and other damage. Lucas Girling brakes are a bit expensive to work on iirc based on other posts. You will need a hydraulic set up with power assist of some kind.
As for top vs. front loading axles, there is a reason people use the top loading axles, and that is driveline angle. With front loaded diffs, you are either going to have to tilt the differentials, or have extreme u-joint killing drive shaft angles.
As for what exactly those are, please post all the info off the plates.
Does it matter if they are "5 ton"????
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It would be nice to know that I actually bought 5 tons, that's why I'd like confirmation. I can't read the Rockwell plate since it is all grinded up, the picture actually brought better quality than my own eyes haha. Thanks a lot though.
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