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Old May 26, 2003 | 08:20 AM
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Unhappy idle surge

At start up my rigs idle tends to surge until it warms up.any thoughts as to what is the problem.
 
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Old May 26, 2003 | 10:57 AM
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Mine does the same thing. It sits at around 2000 rpm for the first bit then it kicks down and jumps up and down til its good and warm. Info pleeeeese.
 
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Old May 26, 2003 | 07:02 PM
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I would start by cleaning the IAC, throttle body & PCV then check for minor vacuum leaks when cold.
 
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Old May 26, 2003 | 08:49 PM
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Mine did that after I bought it. After having a problem with it at work, another dude at work who used to have a Ranger with the same 2.9L as mine. He said the rough idle was because of a clogged air filter. About a week later I opened the airbox to check it, and the filter was practically black (I'll take a pic of it in a little bit) it was so clogged. I went and bought a new cheapo paper filter and the rough idle has hardly happened since.

OVERALL: Try a new air filter as well.
 
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Old May 26, 2003 | 09:19 PM
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Been there done that. Its not the air filter. Its a sensor somewhere down the line. I just don't know which one it is thats causin the problem, and im too cheap to take it in for a scan.
 
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Old May 26, 2003 | 09:21 PM
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Originally posted by ShadowBronco2
Been there done that. Its not the air filter. Its a sensor somewhere down the line. I just don't know which one it is thats causin the problem, and im too cheap to take it in for a scan.
I guess I had a good sensor and bad filter?

Each car has it's own reasons for the same problemos... so... who knows...
 
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Old May 27, 2003 | 12:07 AM
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Thats true. I disconnected the O2 sensor and the problem seems to have gotten a bit better. It still does it a bit, but not as bad.
 
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Old May 27, 2003 | 12:04 PM
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Shadow, you do not have to take it in to get the codes scanned. You can run it with a piece of wire or gem clip.
see this thread:
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/s...hreadid=112295

http://www.broncodata.com/tech/codes.htm

I believe that 90 and earlier use the 2 digit code and 91 and later use the 3 digit codes. They are both listed in the above link. The cutoff maybe 92 instead of 91, not sure.

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Old May 27, 2003 | 12:27 PM
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idle surge

Thanks Basher. Then its just like my S15. I just used a paper clip to get the codes. No need for a code reader then, thats so cool.

Thanks again,
Kev
 
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Old May 27, 2003 | 08:34 PM
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You won't be able to do that on a 85.
 
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Old May 27, 2003 | 11:30 PM
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its an 86 motor, will it work for that??
 
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Old May 28, 2003 | 04:52 PM
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Shadow,

I am assuming you have fuel injection if it is an 86 motor. Does it have the eec-iv computer control system? The computer is located behind the passenger side kick panel and the test harness is behind the airbox under the hood. I believe there is a picture of the connector somewhere on the links for eec-iv. I believe that that test procedure applies to all eec-iv fuel injected engines.

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Old May 28, 2003 | 07:28 PM
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I have a link in the tech info post at the top on how to do it.
 
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Old May 31, 2003 | 12:22 PM
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I have a K & N filter cleaned it ,the IAC and throttle body replaced the pcv still does it.
 
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