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Old May 25, 2003 | 07:51 PM
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a week or two go i posted about a wiring nightmare on my 73 crew cab.
WEll after trying to figure out all the butchering,wire nuts etc,
i decided to go pull a new(used) harness from the salvage yard.
So i find a pristine 73 pickup at the local upullit and i take the complete unbutchered harness to my home.
I remove and install the new harness.
I go to turn to the key to start and NOTHING, not even a click.
If i just turn the key On i hear a click under the hood like something is getting powered.
Now if i leave it in run and go and jump the terminals on the
solenoid she come to life!
I tried another ignition switch(one i know works) and i get the
same result.
What am i doing wrong here???
I also dont have the heater or instument cluster connected, would that make a difference???
 
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Old May 25, 2003 | 08:10 PM
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Do you have the wirs on the starter elay on correctly?
Battery positive wire should have 3-6 wires with it on the front large terminal, one wire on the small terminal "S" , one wire on the small terminal "I", and one wire on the rear large terminal going directly to the starter.
 
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Old May 25, 2003 | 08:15 PM
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Yep
got all those on correctly...
I missing something on the start circuit.
Because in the run position i can jump start it on the solenoid with
no problems
 
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Old May 25, 2003 | 08:20 PM
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When you jump the relay are you jumping 12volts to the "S" terminal??
 
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Old May 25, 2003 | 08:26 PM
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I jumping 12volts from the Pos terminal or big lug to the small
slide on connector righ next to the positive lug.

Its the same too you connect a remote starter too.
 
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Old May 25, 2003 | 08:37 PM
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So put a test light on the connector that goes to the S terminal and have someone turn the key to start position and see if the test light illuminates.

You might have a fusible link gone in the harness.
It's all wrapped with tape & runs for about 24" from the wire terminal.
It could also be the neutral safety switch causing the problem.
 
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Old May 25, 2003 | 08:55 PM
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It could be the neutral ssafety switch, if it is an auto.
Wait there is a thought did the truck you "steal" the harness from have the same tranny as the one you have....meaning were they both auto or both manual??
 
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Old May 25, 2003 | 10:13 PM
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Originally posted by sparky
It could be the neutral ssafety switch, if it is an auto.
Wait there is a thought did the truck you "steal" the harness from have the same tranny as the one you have....meaning were they both auto or both manual??
I bet that is the problem. Your harness may have a plug that needs to be jumped for a clutch pedal switch, or it may have a plug for the neutral switch on an automatic that needs to be jumped. I think ford used lightblue/red for many years for this circuit.
 
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Old May 25, 2003 | 10:30 PM
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Right on the colours Dave,they're just the other way around.

Red/Lt Blue stripe
 
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Old May 26, 2003 | 08:36 PM
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Ok

I thought i had it with the Jumper(didnt have it connected),
but i saw the new harnes only had a jumper where my 4spd
has a harness that plugs in and disapears down under the cab.??
Also i tried the test lamp on the wiring on the selenoid, and i get
a light for the Run circuit but nothing on the start circuit???
Where should i go from here?
 
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Old May 26, 2003 | 09:45 PM
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With your test light, do you have voltage in the start position at the jumper for the neutral safety bypass?
 
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Old May 26, 2003 | 11:33 PM
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This past thread may be of some help in the diagnosis

https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/s...hreadid=114020
 
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Old May 27, 2003 | 06:31 PM
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GRoup

a big thanks for all the help...
I found it to be another jumper wire in the main harness by where
the column connector is. Its a 4 wire jumper. The infamous red with blue stripe wire is on there too! I never noticed it on the
original harness, and the harness i pulled had it opened or i lost
the jumper while pulling it..Who knows..All i know is the 4 door beast is on the road again!
 
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