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Old Dec 19, 2012 | 11:46 AM
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Will not move!

1994 7.3 turbo F-350. Things look very bad. Last night on the way home from work, I accelerated and the tranmission seemed to slip badly. The engine started running rough. It ran ok, getting me to the next stop sign, but I noticed it was running hot. At the stop, it would barely accelerate. I got it going slowly, and ran better at a higher speed. Stopped again, same story. The overdrive light flashed once.

This morning, I first checked the radiator fluid and it was TWO GALLONS low. I had been smelling some fluid and had been checking the overflow but I should have been removing the cap. I added fluid and took the battery cables off hoping to reset the tranmission codes because I figured I was in limp mode. I start the engine and it runs smooth for about 10 seconds then runs very rough. I put it in gear, forward or reverse and I feel some vibration but it will not move. Sorry I was so long winded but I wanted to be complete. Please help!
 
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Old Dec 19, 2012 | 11:51 AM
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What does the transmission fluid look like? Is your truck a PSD or a turbo IDI?
 
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Old Dec 19, 2012 | 12:43 PM
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if the fluid is low or dark, change it and pray. if the fluid is good, then you'll likely need a new transmission
 
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Old Dec 19, 2012 | 01:21 PM
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It is red. It does not seem burnt nor is it low. The engine is pre powerstroke, IDI.
 
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Old Dec 19, 2012 | 01:24 PM
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I'd guess you've got some internal damage to the tranny. Drop the pan and inspect. Also, where did all the anti-freeze go? 2 gallons low it went somewhere.
 
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Old Dec 19, 2012 | 01:41 PM
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My thought about the antifreeze is that it went down over time and I was just checking the overflow instead of the cap. Is it possible the tranny overheated because of that and went into limp mode? Did I reset it properly? I have heard of people buying a case of tranny fluid, taking the line at the radiator loose and flushing the system with fresh fluid. Is that worth a shot?
 
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Old Dec 19, 2012 | 02:11 PM
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I don't know with your truck. If it was making noise and lurching, I would just drop the pan to see what's in there. But, come to think of it, look up between the torque converter and flexplate. Something in there may be broke.
 
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Old Dec 19, 2012 | 06:44 PM
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too bad you didn't put a code reader on it (20-30 bucks for one) instead of clearing the code.now you don't have help of the failure point,without the code.could have really narrowed things down for ya.
always count on an electrical failure first.rule those out,and prove a mechanical failure last.
 
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Old Dec 20, 2012 | 05:00 PM
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Originally Posted by CampSpringsJohn
I don't know with your truck. If it was making noise and lurching, I would just drop the pan to see what's in there. But, come to think of it, look up between the torque converter and flexplate. Something in there may be broke.
I kind of was thinking about the torque converter too. I had it towed to my mechanic and that is indeed what it was, a blown torque converter. The rebuild was estimated at between $1500 to $1800, which does not seem bad. I heard good things about the shop. They have been in business a long time.

Is there anything that I should make sure they do that might be skipped?
 
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Old Dec 20, 2012 | 05:02 PM
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Also, what transmission do I have? Can you still buy a new one?
 
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I would guess an E4OD, but I'm not sure. Get a heavy duty torque converter, not the stock one if I were you.
 
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Old Dec 21, 2012 | 08:11 AM
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Also, what transmission do I have? Can you still buy a new one?

You have an E4od
 
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Old Dec 21, 2012 | 08:22 AM
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In the original E4OD tranny there is a set of planetary gears near the tail end that are mounted in an aluminum housing that is prone to fail. The 4R100 replaced that setup with a set in a steel housing. Most rebuilds on the E4OD replace those planetary gears with the set out of a 4R100. Also, the upgraded torque converter will put your estimate over the $2000.00 mark for sure. A transgo tugger kit would also be a good investment.
 
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Old Dec 21, 2012 | 10:46 AM
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Originally Posted by CampSpringsJohn
I would guess an E4OD, but I'm not sure. Get a heavy duty torque converter, not the stock one if I were you.
Can you recommend a source for a heavy duty torque converter? Thanks for the help!
 
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Old Dec 21, 2012 | 10:56 AM
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Not right off. There are several companies out there that make some, and they vary in price and what you want to do with them. If they are a tranny shop, just ask them what there experience has been with different models. I know mine cost an extra $350.00. You could go a lot higher in price, but for a work truck, I couldn't justify going for the more expensive ones. Now if it was a pulling or drag racing truck, I likely would have spent a lot more money for one designed specifically for that type of use.
 
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