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Old Dec 2, 2012 | 05:36 PM
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Decode Vin from junkyard

Hey fellas I found a great old ford at the salvage by my house today. can you help decode it? Its an inline 6 but not sure what size. I am tempted to buy the block etc .. and transmission from the truck if its an overdrive trans or 4 speed. Thanks
 
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Old Dec 2, 2012 | 05:42 PM
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So I ran the vin on the decoder on the site. Its a 300cid. I am wondering what all I need to pull off the engine to upgrade my 223? I am also going back to take some pics of the trans. I image it has to at least be a 4 speed or a trans with overdrive if its a 76? any thoughts?
 
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Old Dec 2, 2012 | 06:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Ianmattf100
So I ran the vin on the decoder on the site. Its a 300cid. I am wondering what all I need to pull off the engine to upgrade my 223? I am also going back to take some pics of the trans. I image it has to at least be a 4 speed or a trans with overdrive if its a 76? any thoughts?
Nothing from this truck will fit your 223. Not the intake, starter, clutch, not the bell, and defiantly not the trans.

The 223 will only accept parts made 1964 or later and only for a 223.

As for a three speed verses a four speed you need a 223 four speed bell to do the swap as four speeds do not fit three speed bells.

Your odds of finding a three speed and R10 or 11 are slim to none in a wrecking yard. These were phased out in 72 and ONLY A THREE SPEED OD FROM 1964 TRUCK DOWN WILL FIT. Car transmissions are 23 spline and too short on the input.

All three speed non overdrive transmissions end up with a 1 to 1 output ratio.

All four speed non overdrive transmission end up with a 1 to 1 output ratio.

It took me 1200 bucks and three full transmission and OD units to build a single good unit. If you want overdrive get a Mummert modified bell and a T5. Spend the cash to do it correctly.

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Old Dec 2, 2012 | 06:34 PM
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Thanks for the heads up garbz. Bummer! I thought I had a real find there. You say 223 64 and up for parts? Mine is a 63
 
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Old Dec 2, 2012 | 06:36 PM
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Let me ask you this... what if i were to also purchase the engine log, intake and manifold? then I should be able to grab the trans too?
 
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Old Dec 2, 2012 | 06:48 PM
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64 and older.

what if i were to also purchase the engine log, intake and manifold? then I should be able to grab the trans too?

None of these items will fit.



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Old Dec 2, 2012 | 08:21 PM
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I suggest you research your 63 before you spend any cash. There are many differences in your 63 than the 65+ F100s.

Amost nothing engine, steering, transmission, front suspension, and wiring cross over.

Some body panels are different as well.

Just because they look similar does not mean they are compatible.
 
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Old Dec 2, 2012 | 08:26 PM
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Would most 9" rearends from the 70s era f100 bolt right on? I am heading to the salvage again soon to see if I can find one with 3.25 in the pumkin.
 
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Old Dec 2, 2012 | 08:57 PM
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Up to 72 will bolt in with no mods.

Remember most vehicles are in the salvage yard because they were wrecked or worn out.

Also in those days trucks were work vehicles, unlikely to find a set of 3.25s in a truck.

Lots of cars had 9in as well and they have higher gears, you may be able to grab the gears, but some vehicles had tapered axles, some didnt. I dont think the gears are interchangable between the two, but Im not certain.
 
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COOL Shadow thanks. I found a 9" rearend from a mustang with 3.25 gears on craigslist. Will that work I wonder? He is asking a lot for it...$500. That sound way too much to me.
 
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Heres another rear end I found on CL close to me and I am wondering if it will work n my truck. Ford 8.8 rear differential w/disk brakes from Crown Victoria 3.27 ratio. tag no. VO44R
 
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Old Dec 2, 2012 | 11:29 PM
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Like I say, do some research first.

It seems you want to start swapping parts.

There is a a lot of work and money involved in adding rear disc brakes to a 63.

The Mustang and Crown Vic rears are not bolt in for your truck.

It is very easy to spend a lot of cash and have a pile of parts that will do nothing for you.
 
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Old Dec 3, 2012 | 08:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Ianmattf100
Hey fellas I found a great old ford at the salvage by my house today.
What's so great about it? It's a bare bones "stripper price leader" Custom with 3 on-the-tree without P/S with a Dana 44 "weak sister" rear axle.
F10 = F100 2WD Pickup.

B = 300 1V I-6.

R = San Jose CA Assembly Plant.

C75759 = 1976.

117" Wheelbase.

M = Wimbledon White.

F100 2WD Pickup, 4,600 lbs. GVWR

AB4: AB = Blue all Vinyl / 4 = Styleside Pickup.

C = Ford type 3.03 3 Speed Manual all Syncromesh Transmission.

12 = Dana 44 Rear Axle / 3.00-1 / No Limited Slip / 2,900 lbs. Rear Axle Capacity.

4,600 lbs. Gross Vehicle Weight Rating.

1976

72 = San Jose (NorCal) Ford District Sales Office, where the original selling dealer ordered the truck from.

1978 was the first year that Ford installed the RUG SR-OD Single Rail 4 Speed Overdrive (used thru 1983) in F100/150's with 300/302's.

It's a horrid "weak sister" with an even more horrid flaw. The shift lever (located in the extension housing), nestles into a nylon bushing.

The bushing (D9BZ-7K453-A) is a notorious POS well known for cracking apart. When the bushing cracks, the trans can no longer be shifted.

The POS is obsolete .. No Ford Dealer or obsolete parts vendor has any. Only place I've found any is at Northwest Transmission.
 
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