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Old Dec 1, 2012 | 06:52 PM
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Ford PATS issues! Please Help!!!

Hello all! I had a chain of events that led up to this issue. They are unique and I don't quite understand why thye happened. To break it down, I had a cylinder #2 misfire and another cylinder misfire first 1000rpm. It's a used engine. So, to be safe, I done a compression check. Which was 100psi. Is that ok? I checked the coil, then the injector (I think the plug not seating right.) To make a long story short, I think what set off the PATS was 1 of 2 things. I forgot to put the plug back in and attached my coil . Ya I know, what a ******* right!? So, I started it with my remote start. It cranked, and sputtered (No plug) and shut off. #2, I had my Power Probe hooked up to the injector plug. I had alligator clip (ground) hooked to the injector. I then tried to start the engine again. It did the same thing. I noticed this time that my probe tip, was resting on the throttle body and was showing a green "-" sign. Which of course means a solid ground. So, I think I grouned out my ignition system. With all of that being said, when I go to start it, my theft light flashes and my milage shows ----------. It just cranks and cranks. Is there anyway to temporarily disable or bypass this to see if it is indeed the PATS system? Please tell me where to go from here!
 
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Old Dec 1, 2012 | 07:04 PM
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You probably blew the fuse for the PCM power or the cluster or blew the PCM Power relay. It's unlikely that it is a PATS-specific issue.

Does the MIL come on properly during bulb prove-out? If not troubleshoot the PCM power circuit.
 
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Old Dec 1, 2012 | 07:13 PM
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ok, I'll text all the fuses. I hope it works!!! Where are those fuses located?
 
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Old Dec 1, 2012 | 07:40 PM
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IT WORKED!!! It was indeed a blown fuse. I freaked OUT and just kinda gave up after it happened. Thanks for offering insight! I deeply appreciate your help SHO!!!! NOw, onto the cylinder #2 misfire, it's still doin it. Any pointers?
 
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Old Dec 1, 2012 | 07:47 PM
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90% of misfires on the 5.4 motor are COPS. change the coil.
 
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Old Dec 1, 2012 | 07:54 PM
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I agree steve!! However, I would like to be more "precise" than that!
 
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Okay. 98% of misfire problems are the COP and/or the spark plug. That better?
 
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Thanks, I may have to change my fuses to be on the safe side. Because for about 3 weeks, my SCrew would crank and not start, Theft light would flash, and Odometer would display "----------". Cycle key on/off a couple of times and starts. Then just as suddenly "cured" itself.
 
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Thanks, I may have to change my fuses to be on the safe side. Because for about 3 weeks, my SCrew would crank and not start, Theft light would flash, and Odometer would display "----------". Cycle key on/off a couple of times and starts. Then just as suddenly "cured" itself.
Replace the PCM Power relay first.
 
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Old Dec 9, 2012 | 07:18 PM
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In case ya'll didn't read the cure it was the ecm fuse. That is fixed. The misfire was cylinder # 2. After extensive testing (that still showed spark) I took Steves advice and changed the coil. That fixed the misfire (that only showed a code once.) Thanks everyone for your help! I'm going to post another issue in another thread after I get done with this about another question. Thanks!!
 
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