frame stretch question
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Fleet Mechanic
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oh yeah, it'll be a while before I get to that point. I'm gonna get my Scab cab solid and primed to sell if I get the Crew, and at the same time fix any issues on the CC body. May end up driving the CC all winter while I work on the frame stretch.
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Check the crew for rust in the driprails. Also whatever you do dont tear up the back door weatherstrip. Its never been reproduced and nothing else seems to fit it. It was never even offered from ford. The only way to get it was on a new truck.
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I'm confused on your comment about cutting the frame where the level is. Why wouldn't I want to cut it further forward, under the cab and in front of the bed mounts? That way, the whole rear section of the frame would be done, no new hole/brackets and no reason to move the spring hangers. The frame has a straight section under the cab, why wouldn't that be a good spot?
How it sits now, minus the axles. Why couldn't I cut the frame somewhere in front of the rear cab mounts?
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How it sits now, minus the axles. Why couldn't I cut the frame somewhere in front of the rear cab mounts?
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The frame isnt perfectly strait and square under the cab. You need to look at it alot closer. Youve got atleast 2 compound angles on that section. The frame rail gets shorter. It also becomes narrower at a certain point and has a slight bow to it.
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Ive had 4 sclb frames and they all are the same. Youre trying to make a frame that was never offered from the factory so everything isnt going to work out perfect. Like i said the only thing will be front bed bolt holes and those can be drilled.
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I see what you mean, frame comes in pretty quickly there. So, with that in mind, I'm thinking it would be easier to stretch the CC frame. If I have to stretch the section UNDER the 8' bed, it is going to make the slanted part of the frame stick too far forward, interfering with the cab mounts. If I do it on the CC frame, the stretched part and any changes would be under the bed only, leaving the cab mounts where they belong
How much you think I could get out of that Scab frame. lb 4x4, bare frame with steering box, both gas tanks?
How much you think I could get out of that Scab frame. lb 4x4, bare frame with steering box, both gas tanks?
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The cab mounts sit lower than the front bed mounts, so it would be off?? That's what I'm thinking. wish I had paint on this puter and I'd draw what I mean.
You can't put the stretch under the bed and then put the cc cab on, you'll essentially be mounting the cab tilting forward wouldn't you?
You can't put the stretch under the bed and then put the cc cab on, you'll essentially be mounting the cab tilting forward wouldn't you?
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Nope. Look at the pic of my truck again. stock front cab mounts and rad support mounts. I blocked the back of the cab up and bolted the bed down. lined the back of the cab up with the bed and made new cab mounts. The back of the cab clear the top of the frame rail by 2". Im not sure whats confusing you but looking at the pic of my truck should show you that itll work no problem.
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you would just have to body lift the front of the cab up. thats what dave did on his super cab long bed that was stretched under the bed that he is messing with now (and I think not happy with). Honestly, if you are letting someone that you trust do all the welding, you will be far better off if you just take it to them and let them decide how they want to do it, since they are the one that will be cutting and welding and will be responsible for the final fitment of the project.
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What's confusing me is that the rear cab mounts on the Scab do not sit level with the flat spot you want me to cut. That would mean, if I move those mounts back the foot'ish that I would need to mount the ccab but keep them level with where they are now, they would sit a couple inches lower than the top of the frame rail. Does the cc have mounts that sit lower on the frame? Did you use a body lift on the cab? Do you have pix of the frame after you remounted the body mounts? That would probably help me see where you are coming from.
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No he wouldnt have to put a bodylift on the front. The only reason the sc was like that was because it was a regular cab frame. On the crew it worked perfect. No bodylift at all. The rear cab mounts wat right about where the front bed bolt holes would be. The only reason the sc has the brackets rivited on for the front bed bolts is because they hit right wherer the frame starts to curve. The crew will cover that part up. So when you stretch it behind that curve the bed will sit flat on the frame like any normal truck would.