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Were does the line get drawn?

An FL1A is a Purolator hybrid.

An FL-2016 Ford 6.0 oil filter is made by Racor which is also rebranded as Fram, Micro-Gard and also Racor.

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Well most of the parts aren't available new anymore so its tough. I guess it would simply be on the honor system. It would include not putting any major components never installed by Ford at the factory into a Ford. In other words, no toyoda gearboxes, not chubby or dodge engines, etc... The line is blurred here a bit considering many components were manufactured by third party corporations and were used in all the various brands (DANA). I guess its all about intent.

Just say 'No FINO's' (Ford In Name Only).

This is my thing. I really don't care what others do. It boils down to me wanting to get cheap as GM or MOPAR parts that won't break as soon as they get installed. The previous sentence was a cheap shot.
 
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Baldwin B2 filters are also good. Baldwin will not sell a filter that does not meet or exceed OEM specs. They also make CAT filters.
 
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Baldwin B2 filters are also good. Baldwin will not sell a filter that does not meet or exceed OEM specs. They also make CAT filters.
Baldwin/Hastings makes several filters that are rebranded for other companies like CAT and Deere.

Donaldson makes the majority of CAT branded filters. Years ago Caterpillar dealers had a filter cut-away comparison on the counters... comparing CAT to Baldwin to Wix.

Something to think about.

I have toured the Baldwin facility and attended several filter seminars, usually attended by Baldwin among others. I am a huge fan of Baldwin, but even some of their filters have drawbacks. I agree the B2 is a quality filter.

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Originally Posted by vic_v8
I used to have to sit through oil filter meetings.
What kind of job had you setting through "oil filter meetings" if I may ask?

BTW I am a Motorcraft FL1A filter user too.

Good thread and a great way to get some filter opinions.
 
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I have always used Motorcraft filters and replacement parts perhaps i'm just hard headed that way but my dad told me to always trust Motorcraft and I do they have always been reliable parts and filters
 
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Originally Posted by 77&79F250
What kind of job had you setting through "oil filter meetings" if I may ask?

BTW I am a Motorcraft FL1A filter user too.

Good thread and a great way to get some filter opinions.
I worked at a large Case IH tractor dealorship. They sold A TON of oil everyday and filters everyday. We had specialist come in all the time and educate us on all the good ad bad filters out there.

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Lets see now, guns, bullets, fuel,,,,,,,oh yeah, oil filters.
 
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Originally Posted by Bullitt390
Baldwin/Hastings makes several filters that are rebranded for other companies like CAT and Deere.

I have toured the Baldwin facility and attended several filter seminars, usually attended by Baldwin among others. I am a huge fan of Baldwin, but even some of their filters have drawbacks. I agree the B2 is a quality filter.

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When I was working at the local Kenworth dealer one of our parts guys was at a Baldwin production facility for a class and noticed the yellow filters. When he asked about it they said "you didn't see that."

I know people who swear by Fram. I will not use one of those crappy things. I have cut one open before and seen an element with only four folds of paper. Now the filters branded for Mobil are interesting because they don't just have the usual pleats. To get just a bit more in there the pleats are folded into pattern that resembles a W. I believe Bosch filters are the same way.
 
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Originally Posted by 54Hydro
When I was working at the local Kenworth dealer one of our parts guys was at a Baldwin production facility for a class and noticed the yellow filters. When he asked about it they said "you didn't see that."

I know people who swear by Fram. I will not use one of those crappy things. I have cut one open before and seen an element with only four folds of paper. Now the filters branded for Mobil are interesting because they don't just have the usual pleats. To get just a bit more in there the pleats are folded into pattern that resembles a W. I believe Bosch filters are the same way.
They weren't shy when I went thru. Even had *gasp* Orange cans o' death running on the lines.

With the way the cheap Fram filters are made (the more expensive Fram filters actually have metal caps) there aren't more issues and the class action lawsuits that come with it.

Depending on the Bosch filter it is made either by Purolator or Champion Labs.

Champion Labs makes Mobil filters.

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The following research paper on oil filters was last updated in '08 but i don't believe much, if anything at all, has changed since then, at least in regards to the manufacturers/brands listed in the article.

Oil Filters Revealed - MiniMopar Resources
 
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The following research paper on oil filters was last updated in '08 but i don't believe much, if anything at all, has changed since then, at least in regards to the manufacturers/brands listed in the article.
Nice research find Montana.
Deserving of reps.
 
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Motorcraft all day anyday. I use the FL-1A in both of my trucks.
 
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Originally Posted by NumberDummy
FL-1A replaced B7A-6731-A, C1AZ-6731-A, D9AZ-6731-A .. "Spin-On" Oil Filter / Myriad 1957/97 I-6, V6 & V8 FoMoCo vehicles.

FL-300 short version of FL-1A = 1975/78 Mustang II 302.

What's the cheapest price anyone has seen for FL-1A? / MSRP each: $7.22 // FTE sponsor tousleyfordparts.com price each: $3.58.
Bill, I've seem them in WalMart definatly under $4......WalMart also carries my FL-1995 for my 7.3!!
 
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Walmart is Definately the place to go for oil changes now. Shell Rotella oil is usually the cheapest, a good selection of Motorcraft filters for cheap and now carry Purolator filters too.

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Originally Posted by Bullitt390
Walmart is Definately the place to go for oil changes now.
I presume you mean buy the oil/filter and DIY...i wouldn't let a Wal-mart employee change my mind, let alone my oil.
 


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