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Old Nov 7, 2012 | 08:17 AM
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You can always go the Macco route & use sheet metal screws to hold the clips on. Lol
 
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Old Nov 7, 2012 | 02:13 PM
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Originally Posted by NumberDummy
When one has owned as many 'old rolling piles of misery' as I have, one tends to notice certain things, like how mouldings are attached.
The studs are there....because I am trying to decide right now before painting do I want the trim or do I want to cut the studs off, grind, fill and smooth. Problem is with new paint, old trim sticks out like a sore thumb.
 
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Old Nov 7, 2012 | 02:51 PM
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ok well whats the best way to clean up the old trim? or would it be better to buy a new set? since its not chrome like i thought. mines pretty weather beaten but its not rusted.
 
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Old Nov 7, 2012 | 03:11 PM
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Your trim is bright dipped anodized aluminum. You could remove the anodized coating....just google removing anodized coating, buff an polish and then reanodize (have to send to someone to dip), or you could use a clear sealer like Zoops Seal or Sharkhyde to protect from oxidation once buffed and polished. You can't polish out the dullness without removing the anodized coating. It may clean it some, but it will not polish it. The only other choice would be new trim.
 
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Old Nov 7, 2012 | 04:23 PM
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Apparently you've never removed the trim from any of your 338 piles of rolling misery then, these trucks definitely have studs welded to the body at some places to hold the trim.

I would take a picture of the cab I'm working on but I already ground them off because I am deleting the trim, there is at least 4 of them on the cab.
 
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Old Nov 7, 2012 | 05:16 PM
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children!!!! please we are all big kids. lets stop the pissing contest. lets just agree that there will be some body work required to delete the trim peices. and its not as simple as taking it off and repaint.

after i remove the anodizing could i clear coat the part with a clear paint or would that not work well? and how much is to have it reanodized?
 
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Old Nov 8, 2012 | 05:32 AM
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To the OP the trim can be removed just take your time and replacement plastic attachment pieces are available.

Ever thought about taking the real chrome/plastic strip off and have someone thats really good paint it back on? Meaning paint a aluminium-ish color with a black strip in the middle.

That's what I am thinking about doing with my blue truck, IMO the chrome dent strip and race track chrome is a rust buliding spot.
 
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Old Nov 8, 2012 | 10:47 AM
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Originally Posted by JUSTICE1736
children!!!! please we are all big kids. lets stop the pissing contest. lets just agree that there will be some body work required to delete the trim peices. and its not as simple as taking it off and repaint.

after i remove the anodizing could i clear coat the part with a clear paint or would that not work well? and how much is to have it reanodized?
That is what Zoops Seal and Sharkhide is basically, but specifically made for protecting metal's finish. You would have to check around on the bright dip anodizing....you may have some in your area, or you may have to ship off. There are companies that specialize in trim refurbishment, but probably could buy a new set from Dennis Carpenter for the same cost. DC uses the original Ford tooling for his mouldings.
 
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Old Nov 8, 2012 | 11:13 AM
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Originally Posted by 73FOMO
That is what Zoops Seal and Sharkhide is basically, but specifically made for protecting metal's finish. You would have to check around on the bright dip anodizing....you may have some in your area, or you may have to ship off. There are companies that specialize in trim refurbishment, but probably could buy a new set from Dennis Carpenter for the same cost.

DC uses the original Ford tooling for his mouldings.
Some people will believe anything.

What does it take to make a reproduction part? An original part that was made from original tooling.
 
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Old Nov 8, 2012 | 06:44 PM
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Originally Posted by 77&79F250
Ever thought about taking the real chrome/plastic strip off and have someone thats really good paint it back on? Meaning paint a aluminium-ish color with a black strip in the middle.
I'm gonna give it a whirl see how it looks,Trying to get the shadows right will be a pita but gives me some air brush time

That's what I am thinking about doing with my blue truck, IMO the chrome dent strip and race track chrome is a rust buliding spot.
If youve ever taken apart a unmolested truck you'll note a dab of tar sealer at all the screw holes helps alot.
 
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Old Nov 9, 2012 | 06:55 AM
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to answer the OP, I prefer the look of no trim, I took mine off and am currently in the process of welding the holes. But mine will be flat black when done, and I didn't want the trim..... so it's a personal preference.
 
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Old Nov 9, 2012 | 08:54 AM
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Originally Posted by NumberDummy
Some people will believe anything.
Like no factory welded on studs to hold on our trim?

Originally Posted by NumberDummy
What does it take to make a reproduction part? An original part that was made from original tooling
What are you trying to say? Not all reproduction parts are made on the original tooling, but from copies of original tooling. I know their is no way the repop stuff produced overseas is original tooling but reversed engineered copies of the original tooling.
 
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Old Nov 9, 2012 | 09:20 AM
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Originally Posted by 73FOMO
Like no factory welded on studs to hold on our trim?
How many welded studs have you seen in person?

What are you trying to say? Not all reproduction parts are made on the original tooling, but from copies of original tooling. I know their is no way the repop stuff produced overseas is original tooling but reversed engineered copies of the original tooling.
What Carpenter is doing is using original genuine Ford parts to make reproductions.

Since original parts were made from original tooling, Carpenter can claim his repro parts are made from original tooling.

Have you ever seen any original tooling? The press to stamp out grilles is 30' tall, weighs 5 tons. You'd need a crane and a flatbed semi to move it.

Where is all this original tooling located, at FoMoCo? No, because 90% of the parts installed on FoMoCo (GM, ChryCo and etc) vehicles are purchased from outside suppliers.

Why did the Gov't bail out GM and ChryCo? One reason, if both had failed, the outside manufacturers that supply all the automakers including FoMoCo would have failed.
 
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Old Nov 9, 2012 | 10:15 AM
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How many studs have you seen in person?

Apparently one more than you.

Originally Posted by NumberDummy
What Carpenter is doing is using original genuine Ford parts to make reproductions.

I think this is what I said, if it's not it's what I meant.

Since original parts were made from original tooling, Carpenter can claim his repro parts are made from original tooling.

Have you ever seen any original tooling? The press to stamp out grilles is 30' tall, weighs 5 tons. You'd need a crane and a flatbed semi to move it.

Yes I saw this on How it's Made....

Where is all this original tooling located, at FoMoCo? No, because 90% of the parts installed on FoMoCo (GM, ChryCo and etc) vehicles are purchased from outside suppliers.

We didn't buy much from China in the 70's......only since Obama has taken office...

Why did the Gov't bail out GM and ChryCo? One reason, if both had failed, the outside manufacturers that supply all the automakers including FoMoCo would have failed.

Thanks for the economics lesson. In the meantime I am deciding if I should cut the studs off or if I should bail out china and buy some overseas repop trim.
I am not trying to go tit for tat. I was just stating he can buy some good quality USA made, reproduction trim produced from original Ford tooling, which I believe Carpenter has to actually have licensed by Ford, as an option.
 
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Old Nov 9, 2012 | 10:17 AM
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ok guys, your killing me. thanks for the information. and if anyone has any pictures of what your truck looks like after you removed the trim i would really love to see what im getting into and maybe what the bolts and everthing look like that hold it on.
 
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