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Old Oct 28, 2012 | 11:37 PM
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Bolt & nut sizes

This is a (dumb) note(dumb on my part) for Number Dummy, but someone else may be able to help.
In the Ford Master Parts exploded view parts diagrams, when bolt & nut part numbers are given, where in the catalogue does one find the sizes corresponding to each bolt part number?
Is there a chart or table with the numbers and the corresponding sizes? If so , what is the Section and page number?
Thx for the assistance. Jeff
 
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Old Oct 29, 2012 | 05:48 AM
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Originally Posted by JefflovesF250s
In the Ford Master Parts exploded view parts diagrams, when bolt & nut part numbers are given, where in the catalogue does one find the sizes corresponding to each bolt part number?
These are Standard (hardware) part numbers, are listed with the specific parts they are used with (sometimes).*

The only way to look them up individually to get the specs, is if you have a Standard Parts Catalog. I have one printed in 2000, but it basically covers 1980/2000, there are only 500 or so numbers listed for the 1940's/70's.

I've looked for 5 years for one printed in the 1970's that would cover back to the 1940's, found nothing, not even from the literature dealers or on ebay.

When dealers began using computers, many tossed the paper and microfiche catalogs in the trash, as they had become redundant.

* Illustration Section 90, Page 4: Look at 9275, fuel tank sending unit basic number, notice 370050-S screws / Text, Section 92, 9275 sending units, look at the bottom of page 7:

370050-S2 .. Screw (fuel gauge to fuel tank) No. 10 -32 x .50" hex head slotted. Notice that in the text there's an additional number for the suffix (2). Typical of Ford, pics may not have it listed.

Pay no attention to the jazz in parentheses, it refers to a specific parts bin location only.
 
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The last character or two is the finish applied to the fastener.

S - No Finish (Natural Material)
SS - Stainless Steel (Silver)
S2 - Phosphate & Oil (Gray - Black)
S3 - Black Paint (Satin Black)
S7 - Cadmium (Soft Silver)
S8 - Zinc (Dark Silver - Blue)
S13 - Chrome (Bright Silver)
S32 - Olive Drab Paint (Pea Green)
S36 - Zinc Dichromate (Yellow - Rainbow)
S44 - Black Cad/Zinc (Shiny Black)
S45 - Stainless & Chrome (Bright Silver)
S48 - Red Dye (Shiny Red)
S60 - Phosphate & Red (Dull Red)
M - Non-Electrolytic (Dull & Heavy)
P - Nylon Lock (Pellet or Patch)
W & X - Wax, Sealer (Golden, Flexible Black)
 
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Old Oct 29, 2012 | 12:53 PM
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where did you find that info at TA ?? Hows the 4WD coming ??


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Actually Ford might be slightly different, but similar.

Ford Part Numbers - Hardware and Utility Parts - FORDification.com

Having too much fun with the 4WD.

Here's a possible reference, although I'm not sure how to order it.

http://www.amkproducts.com/Fastener_Book.asp
 
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Bolt & nut sizes

All: So what sizes are bolts 376058S & 358672S which are shown on the exploded diagram for securing the engine perches to the frame/front cross member.
I found a reference to the hex nut shown, part no. is 34444S and it is listed as 3/8-16 hex collar-lock in silver-cad finish. Found that on the AMK site, but no luck on bolts.
However, knowing nut size & thread, I now only need bolt type and length.
Any ideas? Thx. Jeff
 
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Old Oct 29, 2012 | 10:22 PM
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See text section 60.7 page 3-4.

65/67 F100/250 358672-S8 - 8 are used with the 352 - Bolt (brkt. to frame) - 3/8"-16 x 1 1/4"

65/ F100/250(4x2) 376058-S - 8 are used with the 352 - Bolt (6028-9 suppt. to frame) - 3/8"-16 x 1 1/2"
 
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Old Oct 29, 2012 | 10:28 PM
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Originally Posted by JefflovesF250s
All: So what sizes are bolts 376058S & 358672S which are shown on the exploded diagram for securing the engine perches to the frame/front cross member.
I found a reference to the hex nut shown, part no. is 34444S and it is listed as 3/8-16 hex collar-lock in silver-cad finish. Found that on the AMK site, but no luck on bolts.
However, knowing nut size & thread, I now only need bolt type and length.
Any ideas? Thx. Jeff
Jeff, Many years ago found a chart that shows all those bolts.

The 376058s is a 3/8 16 x 1 1/2" bolt. normal head with shoulder

the 358672s is a 3/8 16 x 1 1/4" bolt (lead point style) which means it has no threads at the beginning for helping it get started.

the 34444s nut is a lock nut.

I have pictures of them all here somewhere . . . I took pics of each nut and bolt on the entire truck and matched them up with the Parts Book. Took a lot of time.
 
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Originally Posted by JefflovesF250s
All: So what sizes are bolts 376058S & 358672S which are shown on the exploded diagram for securing the engine perches to the frame/front cross member.
I found a reference to the hex nut shown, part no. is 34444S and it is listed as 3/8-16 hex collar-lock in silver-cad finish. Found that on the AMK site, but no luck on bolts.
However, knowing nut size & thread, I now only need bolt type and length.
Any ideas? Thx. Jeff
Jeff, Many years ago found a chart that shows all those bolts.

The 376058s is a 3/8 16 x 1 1/2" bolt. normal head with shoulder

the 358672s is a 3/8 16 x 1 1/4" bolt (lead point style) which means it has no threads at the beginning for helping it get started.

the 34444s nut is a lock nut.

I have pictures of them all here somewhere . . . I took pics of each nut and bolt on the entire truck and matched them up with the Parts Book. Took a lot of time.

Edit: LOL! While I was looking them up TA455 beat me to it..
 
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Sounds like you have better info. Where's the chart you mention?
 
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Old Oct 29, 2012 | 11:08 PM
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Bolt & nut sizes

TA455HO, Boss9F100, Thx ever so much for your answers and Parts Catalogue references. You guys and this site are incredibly helpful. Jeff
 
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Old Oct 29, 2012 | 11:38 PM
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Sounds like you have better info. Where's the chart you mention?
Hidden away in my gun safe... Old timer gave it to me many moons ago.

Originally Posted by JefflovesF250s
TA455HO, Boss9F100, Thx ever so much for your answers and Parts Catalogue references. You guys and this site are incredibly helpful. Jeff
I can do one better! here is a pic of both style bolts. The lead point bolts are actually correct engine stand bolts . . . Upper are 1 1/4" lead point (358672s) and the lower left is the 1 1/2 std head. (376058s)



I have a dedicated wooden cabinet that holds all my nuts, bolts & hardware. All sorted by size, type etc
 
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Old Oct 29, 2012 | 11:55 PM
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call me a "NUT" job but these are the type pics I took for resto . . .

Nice for reference.


















 
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Old Oct 30, 2012 | 09:34 AM
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Boss9F100: Any chance you could post/publish the chart of fastener serial numbers and sizes you mentioned in your earlier post? It could be very helpful and avoid a demand on Number Dummy for his parts id service.
Hope you'll consider publishing. Thx. Jeff
 
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Old Oct 30, 2012 | 03:44 PM
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Originally Posted by JefflovesF250s
Boss9F100: Any chance you could post/publish the chart of fastener part numbers and sizes you mentioned in your earlier post? It could be very helpful and avoid a demand on Number Dummy for his parts id service.
No Ford Dealer or obsolete parts vendor has 34444-S2 or 376058-S or 358672-S8

And remember what I said, in the illustration section, the standard part number may not show the complete suffix. The text section or a Standard Parts Catalog is needed to verify.

These 2 standard parts are listed with their complete suffixes in: Text, Section 60.7 .. Pages 3 & 4.

If looking for standard parts on parts locator sites like PartsVoice.com, if the part number is wrong, all you'll get is: "Unable to find any dealers with parts requested" or a zero.
 
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